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Re: Fox to buy Roku

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Post by exmadscientist »

timeinput wrote: post #193
tmp10423288442 wrote: post #161

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Who is they?

horsawlarway is correct regarding the nvidia shield. I'm not sure how much is nvidia, and how much is google in the "they". I kinda blame nvidia more than google (if I bought a google device I would expect google ads as part of the purchase), but it's hard for me to say. "they" the people who actually own the streaming device (nvidia shield) I "purchased" updated the software and added a lot of ads.

The ads showed up when the launcher got a major redesign, and the Google TV (or whatever they call it this week) launcher is a Google product. I seem to remember that nVidia delayed shipping the new enshittified version for quite a long time, so I'm pretty confident Google gets the blame here.

Re: Fox to buy Roku

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Post by literatepeople »

iririririr wrote: post #181
literatepeople wrote: post #149

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Not really. Apple TV seems to be the closest ive found to not being riddled with ads though. the home screen doesn't have ads at all, the closest which exists is the "top shelf" feature when you hover over the Apple TV app, and that can be turned off in settings. But it has some other issues

how can you live with that awful remote? not even a mute button. and it makes me earn for the old directtv remote! that's how bad it is. Everything is so unresponsive and odd.

The new remote has a mute button. Old remote was garbage.

Re: Fox to buy Roku

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Post by literatepeople »

socalgal2 wrote: post #180
literatepeople wrote: post #149

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Not really. Apple TV seems to be the closest ive found to not being riddled with ads though. the home screen doesn't have ads at all, the closest which exists is the "top shelf" feature when you hover over the Apple TV app, and that can be turned off in settings. But it has some other issues

I'm pretty happy with AppleTV except for the walled garden. I want to run Kodi. I do run it via XCode and a dev account but because of the app restrictions it's a 2nd class experience. Looked for alternatives like Jellyfin but the only ones on the app store all appear to spy on what you view.

Yeah I mean if you want something FOSS this isn't for you, but neither was a Roku which is what I was responding to

Re: Fox to buy Roku

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Post by literatepeople »

prepend wrote: post #198
etothet wrote: post #170

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I do a lot of my streaming with Apple TV, but the worst parts about the Apple TV app are in my opinion are: - Too many promos of other shows before watching a show. This is often for shows I've already watched and am watching. Apple knows which shows I watch. It shouldn't need to give me promos for shows I've watched or am actively watching. - Poor UX for "Play Next Episode" functionality. If I just finished an episo…

I think GP was talking about the hardware AppleTV, not the streaming service AppleTV (which are stupidly named).

and the apple tv app! which is different from the box and the streaming service which was formerly called Apple TV Plus

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Post by tombert »

baggachipz wrote: post #207
tombert wrote: post #194

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When I got my house, I needed to set up internet, and Verizon FIOS was what I went for. I called them to get it set up, and when I suggested the internet dude on the line kept trying to upsell me TV packages. I was polite at first but eventually I said something like "listen, I don't want your 'Movie Lovers' package. I don't want your 'Sports Fan' package. I don't want your 'Family Entertainment' package. I don't wan…

I'm sure they're forced to do that and graded on how many upgrades they sell. Their bosses will even listen on calls and if they don't make all those pitches, they'll get written up or fired. Source: seen it first-person.

Yeah, I wasn't really upset with the guy for reading his script. I'm sure he was doing what he was trained to do. I figured that if I gave the little diatribe then I kind of figured that he wouldn't get in trouble for just moving on.

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Post by antihipocrat »

munk-a wrote: post #232
tencentshill wrote: post #210

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Some apps on the apple tv still have ads on the pause screen (covering the content I may have wanted to pause to see, a terrible UX choice). It can't be entirely avoided.

It can if you avoid a dedicated device and just hook a desktop up to your TV. It's a one time cost to set up a host you control and that seems to be getting more and more worth it.

Is there a solution for audio and video downscaling when accessing content via the browser in a linux htpc setup?

I don't think any of the big streaming content providers have native apps on linux and no browser can pass through audio bitstreams to HDMI. Video quality is limited as well.

Having a dedicated streaming box is better in this regard

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Post by stereolambda »

Octoth0rpe wrote: post #27
throwatdem12311 wrote: post #15

gross, is there any TV is that isn’t Google or Roku that is halfway decent? Bring back dumb TVs

I was dreading my most recent tv purchase (last fall) for exactly this reason, and ended up with TCL google tv. One can apparently setup a google tv as a dumb tv and never sign it into the internet. It acts exactly how I'd want a dumb tv to work now, simply auto uses the most recent hdmi device, or the active one if the most recent one isn't active. It has never connected to the internet, and it never will. My long t…

Honest question: why doesn't the dumb TV crowd use old TVs (dunno, 10+ years old) as a replacement? Does image quality difference feel so dramatic? Maybe I don't care about this enough. To me the DVD fidelity was not earth-shattering but fine in practice. I do go to the cinema and see new TVs in stores, so it's not like I haven't seen better, just isn't worth a huge premium for me.

Other things I can think about is reliability of the screen (like dead pixels), and your family if not clued in may think you present as "poor".

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Post by valicord »

Fnoord wrote: post #222

A company with the business practices of Fox News I will not buy services or products from. Same with regards to Oracle. I actually regret buying a Nvidia Shield TV. Yes, software support might be there. But what isn't there is the interface (without advertising, the cancer of the world) it came with. Thanks to Google. Thanks to Google, my children are now forced to see inappropriate advertising when the TV gets powe…

It's very easy to block the Shield home screen ad with pihole

Re: Fox to buy Roku

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Post by dylan604 »

nemomarx wrote: post #174
dylan604 wrote: post #97

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You have to realize that you are not in the same financial situation as the vast majority of people (based on the hoity-toity nature that HN readers are all well paid). The vast majority of people just accept ads as part of life and do not care one bit about the evils of the adTech world. If they are able to get a service essentially for free or at least a significant discount, they don't mind ads. Most people don't…

A lot of average people will also pirate if it's cheap and the UI is good. There was a pretty brisk business selling cheap hacked firetv sticks to people for that

When ever is pirating not cheap? Isn't that the whole point?
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