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Re: Fox to buy Roku

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Google and Apple seem like the best competition and they do have streaming services, although Google's is just their bad YouTube tv thing and very ignorable. I'm not sure Amazon is even in the running now. The Nvidia shield used to be a decent streaming box?

They (ETA nvidia shield) added ads many years ago. Really left a bitter taste in my mouth after paying for an ad-free "premium" device to have them shoved out there.

Who is they?

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I was also super-early Roku customer, but frankly I have been mostly disappointed with Roku for the past year or so. The hardware on the top tier devices doesn't seem to keep up. Interacting with it is slower and more laggy than it originally was. They've tried to keep them unobtrusive, which I appreciate, but the mere existence of ads is disappointing. I almost give the Roku City ads a pass, because frankly that's c…

The lagginess is a puzzle to me; one big selling point of the Roku (vs. e.g. the Amazon Fire Stick) is that it is so much more responsive, but newer models have been getting worse instead of better. The last time I used Apple TV I was disappointed, and since they are a streaming provider themselves I expect this to get worse rather than better. Even very basic UI things like "what block in the UI is the cursor curren…

Every time I use the Roku AppleTV app I am baffled as to how the designers think the selected state is remotely acceptable.

I guess I’ll just randomly press the arrow buttons until I notice which box is getting slightly larger.

Re: Fox to buy Roku

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If this happens, our Roku TV is going in the trash. They locked out their customers of their own devices by pushing updated firmware that forced agreement to new terms. They lost my trust during that episode, and this move shows that was the right decision. Meanwhile, Fox lost my respect decades ago. The idea that they could gain network level access to one of my devices cannot be reconciled with my need to feel secu…

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Why do you think reporting and telling the truth is such a bad thing?

Re: Fox to buy Roku

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These aren't subsidiaries of each other. They're different companies with different ownership. So the name Fox is ambiguous.

If you read the comments here i think you can determine without a doubt which Fox we're talking about. The unhinged came out in full force.

>The unhinged came out in full force.

Ohhh, trust us, we know. You've made 10 trolling comments in the past 30 minutes with a 2 day old acct

Re: Fox to buy Roku

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that law does not exist, probably because not enough people feel that way

Your reasoning does not stand at all. There are plenty of things that the majority of people agree upon in this country but it does not get done for a variety of reasons. For example, it's not as important as other issues so they can't prioritize it for voting, gerrymandering, etc...

It literally does? Things that people care strongly about get prioritized. I said others don't feel like the OP. Maybe they agree with the point if presented with the choice, but again, they don't feel the same way, so they don't think, protest, comment, demand it in the way the OP does.

Re: Fox to buy Roku

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Should we expect the Roku apps for non-Fox content to break? That was kind of the selling point of Roku, that it was relatively streaming platform agnostic, not tied to one of the big players.

What do you think? Does it make sense that Fox would invest the entire value of their own company for that end goal?

The Amazon Firestick works with other services but heavily promotes Amazon stuff. I'd expect it to be like that.

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I've already been wanting to get rid of my Roku TVs and boxes for awhile now, they tend to be slow and buggy lately which requires ALOT of restarting.

Before Roku I spent 2005-2018 on various TiVo systems including whole house with minis and the cable-card system. Was thinking of quitting that for awhile, but the Rovi/Macrovision acquisition was definitely the writing on the wall.

Guess it's time to try an Apple TV as it seems like the only semi-premium option available.

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As a long-time[1] customer of Roku I am tentatively extremely pessimistic. I have always been unhappy with Roku's decision to get involved in streaming content at all, because it could potentially cut into their service-agnostic architecture. Bad enough in my mind that they had in-platform ads instead of just charging for hardware, but way worse when they are actively competing with streaming services. And now it loo…

Are there any alternatives that are independent of streaming services?

Look into the TiVo Stream 4K. It’s an Android box but has been very reliable for me. Tivo does force some quirks so I used ADB to disable core services and the default launcher has ads so I switched to Projectivy launcher.

Re: Fox to buy Roku

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Are there any alternatives that are independent of streaming services?

Not really. Apple TV seems to be the closest ive found to not being riddled with ads though. the home screen doesn't have ads at all, the closest which exists is the "top shelf" feature when you hover over the Apple TV app, and that can be turned off in settings. But it has some other issues

I do a lot of my streaming with Apple TV, but the worst parts about the Apple TV app are in my opinion are:

- Too many promos of other shows before watching a show. This is often for shows I've already watched and am watching. Apple knows which shows I watch. It shouldn't need to give me promos for shows I've watched or am actively watching. - Poor UX for "Play Next Episode" functionality. If I just finished an episode of a show and I click to watch the next episode, I don't need to see the recap of the previous episode or the intro. - Speaking of intro, when you click to skip, it usually leaves you somewhere between 5 and 10 seconds from the end of the into, not actually after it.

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