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Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Same here. That's when I switched my kids' machines to Linux. That was just 2 months back. And was Windows 11 bug free, no. Was it easier to use, no. Absolutely irritating OS.

I switched my kids to Linux too. They have a multi-seat setup so now they can both use the PC at the same time. With the state of Linux gaming, we have yet to encounter a reason to boot back into Windows.

amazing!

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Without the MS account, it is _much_ harder to sell OneDrive, Copilot, Office365-whatever subscriptions etc to their users. I get it. I get that they need to upsell their customers OR their product would be more expensive. I'd be happy to pay that premium though, and I'm not going to buy any of those additional things. But let's not pretend that this is purely an evil or thoughtless design choice that isn't economic…

> I get that they need to upsell their customers OR their product would be more expensive.

Then buy Pro. Most people aren't happy to spend more money.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Which few bad clicks would put a fedora install in that state?

If you do have permissions to install packages you can end up with a system in messed up state pretty easily. 1 - Enable wrong ROMFusion because you need these damn video codecs for VLC. I have like 20 years of Linux experience and I still messe up Fedora in 2025 trying to make video work. 2 - Just forget that big update going in background and shutdown system when not appropriate. Boom. On Windows its just much hard…

> Only solution is really distros with immutable root and snapshots.

Lucky for you then, as Fedora does have an immutable desktop flavour!

https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/silverblue/

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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> A user can set up a computer with a Microsoft account, switch to using a PIN every day, and never think about that account again. Then, one day, after a firmware update, a hardware change, or an unexpected issue, the system may display a BitLocker recovery screen requesting a recovery key.

This is absolutely TRASH behavior. One of my siblings not only experienced this but after setting Bitlocker off it turned on ONCE AGAIN automatically after some time.

I urged him to print those fucking codes on paper just in case after we carefully recovered them. This is one of the worst things that can happen to a non technical user.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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One thing I disagree with the article about is that drives should not be encrypted by default. For the vast majority of people an encrypted drive is just data loss lying in wait.

I prefer to use non-encrypted drives so I have the option of popping out the disk and reading it from another system with ease, which also means that I can recover files from drives of otherwise dead systems just as easily. This is a trade off I'm willing to make over losing access to data.

I understand business uses for it, and for that they have an IT team to manage key backup and backups in general. Plus when you're using company equipment it is theirs, not yours.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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> It became way better when microsoft started tormenting the users of win11 instead of win10, and now that windows update doesn't bring new catastrophes and unexpected reboot, the OS is finally not interfering with usage anymore. Yesterday when I booted my windows 10 desktop PC I got a bunch of popups (Win32 MessageBox) about errors in some O365 AI dll files. Turns out some MS AI software was silently installed on my…

What you probably have is a component of O365 as an updater installed - check your programs and features because msft bundled this awhile back and once its removed it will stop the update treadmill.

Didn't they create Windows Installer (i.e. MSI) originally to meet the needs of Microsoft Office? And now they have MSIX to replace it, both of them built into Windows, but they still need a third installer system for Office, which is now also apparently built into Windows?

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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You are not worried about 0-days and other malware?

Running Windows 10 Enterprise IoT LTSC still gives you updates until 2031 with the added benefit of no app store. I run it as my main OS since last October and have yet to encounter any issues.

Some software and games conveniently require at least 22H2.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Do you have a source for literally any of those allegations? I'm as big of a Windows and ME hater as they come, but I'm not aware of any proven backdoors in either. Especially ME, which has been thoroughly reverse-engineered by the security community by this point. The only 'backdoor' discovered was the undocumented killswitch command that disables it after initialization.

Not the parent, but have you heard of Snowden leaks? Also this from the old times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY

Snowden says nothing about backdoor'ed Windows.

And _NSAKEY... There is no evidence that it was ever part of a backdoor. But it is good for a laugh.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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The actual average user is fine. The problem is most companies seem design for some hypothetical average user, who they hate and/or think is a dumbass.

> The actual average user is fine. I'm afraid i have some unfortunate news.. >t. someone who deals with "average users" on a daily basis.

Do you really? How? I haven’t done IT, but I would expect you to mostly see people who’d broken something.
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