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Even more batteries included with Emacs

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Re: Even more batteries included with Emacs

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I have been using Emacs since 1994 (Lucid!) and I still don't understand Dired.

Try it out! It has its own learning curve, but it's convenient to use in quick and dirty situations.

Love that the "don't mess something up accidently" aka input lock is working in dired too(C-c C-q) Here it turns off input lock, so you can freely edit filenames in a dir like if it was a regular text buffer.

Re: Even more batteries included with Emacs

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All the other comments in this thread talk about emacs instability when that hasn't been the case for me. I'm on doom emacs, update once in a while, and everything mostly just works other than some color scheme weirdness I had to fix. I used to be on neovim, and that ecosystem compared to emacs feels like this image: https://i.imgflip.com/2pg2s7.jpg Some of it is the maintainer shielding us from the breaking changes,…

I use both Emacs ( have used it for decades ) and began using Neovim recently.

Neovim seems fairly reasonable. Using the LazyVim distribution of Neovim and it works quite well for my purposes.

Re: Even more batteries included with Emacs

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I saw orgmode once and I really loved it. Used Doomed and spacemacs. But dear Lord, does everything break on updates and need fixing. I had to give up as I just don't think it's feasible for me to fix my emacs when I want to get some work done.

What "updates" are you referring to? In more than 15 years of using Emacs I've not once been blocked from doing work due to any kind of breakage.

Right, I can't understand what this breaking refers to?

I've been using emacs every day all day every time I'm front of a computer, since 1991. I need only one finger to count the pieces of software I've been using that long that have never crashed or broken on me in any way.

Re: Even more batteries included with Emacs

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I have been using Emacs since 1994 (Lucid!) and I still don't understand Dired.

NGL, I find the Dired UX out of the box to be frustrating given its reliance on remembering key bindings, so much so that I ended up writing both a Transient menu and a context menu for it, both available in the Casual and Anju packages on MELPA, respectively. If interested, you can read more about them in the following links: https://kickingvegas.github.io/casual/Dired-Usage.html https://kickingvegas.github.io/anju/Dired-Mode-Context-Menu....

Re: Even more batteries included with Emacs

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My 2 cents (I hope I don't offend anyone, and of course Emacs community is amazing). I've been using Emacs full-time since ~2010 but I must admit it's been more like part-time along with VSCode since ~2024. > This is largely a discoverability problem In my experience it's not a discoverability problem at all . Not even a little bit. My problem with emacs batteries has always been stability between different combinati…

LLMs are a godsend in fixing emacs problems.

Re: Even more batteries included with Emacs

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All the other comments in this thread talk about emacs instability when that hasn't been the case for me. I'm on doom emacs, update once in a while, and everything mostly just works other than some color scheme weirdness I had to fix. I used to be on neovim, and that ecosystem compared to emacs feels like this image: https://i.imgflip.com/2pg2s7.jpg Some of it is the maintainer shielding us from the breaking changes,…

The irony is that the vim camp can use just the same "argument" here about emacs. So that is a weird comparison to want to make here. > The editor is older than most devs after all. Well, being old does not automatically mean better. Peak human physical performance typically happens, with some exceptions (Justin Gatlin, if we ignore the use of enhancement drugs) in younger years; see Usain Bolt's fastest time achieve…

It's as wrong to anthroporphize Emacs as it is Larry Ellison.

Re: Even more batteries included with Emacs

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My 2 cents (I hope I don't offend anyone, and of course Emacs community is amazing). I've been using Emacs full-time since ~2010 but I must admit it's been more like part-time along with VSCode since ~2024. > This is largely a discoverability problem In my experience it's not a discoverability problem at all . Not even a little bit. My problem with emacs batteries has always been stability between different combinati…

Both you and the sibling common by buzzwords have the same contexte: You’re both using someone’s configuration framework, which goes bery much against the vanilla emacs’s way. Most package assumes something standard and you can expect something to break if your configuration isn’t.

I've used Doom Emacs for years and it rarely breaks. Sometimes things get out of sync, and I delete the git repo and clone it again. That happens once every few years.

People holding your attitude is one thing that keeps people away from Emacs. Very few people want to get into the weeds of customizing their editor. They want to do whatever it is they are interested in and the editor is tool to get it done. Doom Emacs, and other approachable "distributions" are the way to make the power of Emacs accessible.

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