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Re: Linux 7.1

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I’ll never understand why people like Ubuntu. It’s a really hard toss up for me if I’d rather be stuck with Ubuntu or windows.

Come on - at least make one substantive criticism in your post putting down Ubuntu. I came to Ubuntu because Wine worked on it with no effort. Yes, this was a long time ago. I have certainly cursed some of their changes since then, but I don’t want to spend my time doing yet another sysadmin job, so the less I change the better.

Well, it starts with when I have to opt out of location services during install, and Ubuntu reserving usernames (admin, for example) and ends with how aggressively they shut down upstream repos… if they’re not being DDoSd. Package conflicts are miserable, so they tried to paper over it, adding yet another bullshit layer of things to debug when something invariably breaks.

I’d rather flip the question back on you, how is Ubuntu better than, say, Rocky? If you say “upgrading is easier” I’ll chuckle for the rest of the day.

Re: Linux 7.1

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I know it's a bit of a meme but I'm on Debian Stable and I am running the backport kernel, which is on version 6.19. So only one minor version away from the current 7.0. I wish more people would consider Debian for their devices. It is a very stable system, which I appreciate, and, unlike Ubuntu, it was really an "it just works" experience, without any of the friction points that smaller distros have. I installed Deb…

> (granted, all AMD for compatibility)

I get that you mean that AMD is more compatible than... what? Intel? Arm?

Re: Linux 7.1

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Aw, but what have you against kawaii?

For me, it's a personal preference and in my opinion, it's less professional.

If you don't want the anime girl pay for the support, otherwise you get the anime jackal. Seems like a fair deal to me.

Re: Linux 7.1

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I know it's a bit of a meme but I'm on Debian Stable and I am running the backport kernel, which is on version 6.19. So only one minor version away from the current 7.0. I wish more people would consider Debian for their devices. It is a very stable system, which I appreciate, and, unlike Ubuntu, it was really an "it just works" experience, without any of the friction points that smaller distros have. I installed Deb…

what doesn't just work in Ubuntu, compared with Debian?

Re: Linux 7.1

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I know it's a bit of a meme but I'm on Debian Stable and I am running the backport kernel, which is on version 6.19. So only one minor version away from the current 7.0. I wish more people would consider Debian for their devices. It is a very stable system, which I appreciate, and, unlike Ubuntu, it was really an "it just works" experience, without any of the friction points that smaller distros have. I installed Deb…

> (granted, all AMD for compatibility) I get that you mean that AMD is more compatible than... what? Intel? Arm?

Nvidia, I think? That's what people say but has never been my experience.

Re: Linux 7.1

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> Linux 7.1 is also notable for its code removals. Driven by AI-assisted bug reporting, ISDN and other old network driver code was removed to avoid that influx of bug reporting against those very rarely touched or used drivers for obsolete hardware. Moving really old and unused code out of the kernel just to get less AI-assisted bug reports is IMO one of the best consequence ever of AI. I love it. We should start tri…

> Moving really old and unused code out of the kernel just to get less AI-assisted bug reports Obviously, the parent is /s, but when I read this, I thought Linux was removing exploit paths that exercise rarely-used features. On phone OSes at least, quirky rare formats and features are (were?) a common source of exploitable bugs.

Is the parent really being sarcastic? I read it as genuine.

There’s presumably plenty of code bloat in the kernel, and while no human would ever scan for bugs in a corner of the kernel that hasn’t been used or touched in decades, AI 100% will. And while those bug reports might be useless as bug reports, they seem promising as “why is this code even here?” flags.

Re: Linux 7.1

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But not a very accurate blogpost. "Here's why this literally cannot work (in theory)" to denigrate a system that actually works (in practice). Their goal is to convince people to stop using it because it personally inconveniences them, but they never provide an alternative solution that actually solves the problem (in practice) that Anubis actually solves (in practice). If leaving the problem unsolved (in practice) w…

I'm totally out of the loop here, where's the evidence that this works in practice?

before and after apache logs showing much less crap in them from bots. Do you think the maintainers of https://lore.kernel.org/ would leave something in that didn't work? It isn't perfect but I have run it on a (much smaller) web site getting hammered by bots and logged "before" and "after" and the difference is measurable.

Re: Linux 7.1

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I know it's a bit of a meme but I'm on Debian Stable and I am running the backport kernel, which is on version 6.19. So only one minor version away from the current 7.0. I wish more people would consider Debian for their devices. It is a very stable system, which I appreciate, and, unlike Ubuntu, it was really an "it just works" experience, without any of the friction points that smaller distros have. I installed Deb…

I’ll never understand why people like Ubuntu. It’s a really hard toss up for me if I’d rather be stuck with Ubuntu or windows.

Ubuntu offered a slightly prettier installation experience.

Sure, no matter which distro you were installing you still had to provide a hostname, a domain name, some IP info (maybe), and an opinion on partitioning - there's only so many ways to ask the user these questions - but the ubuntu installer was prettier.

Around the time it was gaining popularity, almost every 'reviewer' (blogger) seemed to waste about 85% of their distro reviews talking about the installer - as though this was somehow important. The big sell of Debian, and Debian-derivatives, is that you install once, and then it's just in-place upgrades forever. The distro-hoppers, Microsoft evacuees, content-creators, etc - didn't really get that.

Anyway, once Ubuntu was installed it was much the same to operate as a Debian box. Obviously there were some surprising differences. Unity. Mir. One Cloud. Wubi. Upstart. Bazaar.

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