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Re: Linux 7.1

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> Linux 7.1 is also notable for its code removals. Driven by AI-assisted bug reporting, ISDN and other old network driver code was removed to avoid that influx of bug reporting against those very rarely touched or used drivers for obsolete hardware. Moving really old and unused code out of the kernel just to get less AI-assisted bug reports is IMO one of the best consequence ever of AI. I love it. We should start tri…

How about we stop adding the fat in the first place. cough. electron. cough.

Re: Linux 7.1

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Did anyone see an anime avatar flash by for a fraction of a second before the content loaded? What was that?

uBlock Origin filter to block the anime girl from loading:

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(c) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46310941

Re: Linux 7.1

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Did anyone see an anime avatar flash by for a fraction of a second before the content loaded? What was that?

uBlock Origin filter to block the anime girl from loading: ! Title: Hide Anubis Image */.within.website/x/cmd/anubis/static/img/*.webp$image (c) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46310941

Aw, but what have you against kawaii?

Re: Linux 7.1

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Not a serious question but I'll give a serious answer anyway. The last time I worried over which kernel was used in Debian Stable was... never. If I want a more recent kernel I run Debian unstable (Sid) which currently is at 7.0.12 (the current 'stable' kernel where 7.1 is 'mainline') but on my servers Stable (currently 'Trixie') does just fine with its 6.17.3 kernel. Debian 'Forky' will be released somewhere in 2027…

> The last time I worried over which kernel was used in Debian Stable was... never. It was briefly a little annoying to deal with wireguard. But it was only a bit annoying, and then they updated. That's the only time I recall specifically caring.

Yes, when that was a thing I just compiled the wireguard module myself to feed it to the virtual router. It was only needed for a short interval and was thereafter handled by dkms, i.e. no problem.

Re: Linux 7.1

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I’ll never understand why people like Ubuntu. It’s a really hard toss up for me if I’d rather be stuck with Ubuntu or windows.

Probably because it got popular as the easy Linux distro back in the 2000s and that label is sticking. I remember that I attempted to install Debian on my laptop in 2009. It was ugly. I installed Ubuntu 8.04 and it was a totally different and much nicer experience. Because of that I've been on Ubuntu until they started pushing snaps very aggressively. I live booted Debian 11 and realized that its UI was exactly the s…

I prefer KDE (on Ubuntu, because I tried it and it's good enough) - it's got more stuff built into the OS in terms of settings. I tended to find that Gnome needs you to install more things to expose configuration settings, whereas KDE's configuration UI is pretty good.

Re: Linux 7.1

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It’s fairly easy to build your own kernel packages from vanilla sources in Debian. I’m running the latest 7.0.x within a few hours of its release. The build takes about 30-45 minutes depending on how much time I spend on skimming the ChangeLog. YMMV.

> It’s fairly easy to build your own kernel packages from vanilla sources in Debian.

IIRC, Debian has a command called "make-kpkg" which does nearly all the work for you, ending up with a installable package which works identically to the standard Debian kernel packages.

Re: Linux 7.1

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I know it's a bit of a meme but I'm on Debian Stable and I am running the backport kernel, which is on version 6.19. So only one minor version away from the current 7.0. I wish more people would consider Debian for their devices. It is a very stable system, which I appreciate, and, unlike Ubuntu, it was really an "it just works" experience, without any of the friction points that smaller distros have. I installed Deb…

I’ll never understand why people like Ubuntu. It’s a really hard toss up for me if I’d rather be stuck with Ubuntu or windows.

For me, it was kubuntu. Back in late 2005 or early 2006. The reason? They were always pretty good at shipping the latest KDE. I had grown tired of hoping someone would compile a new version for my preferred distro.

So kubuntu it was, and has been ever since. I'm currently looking into whether I should change to something else - as I've started growing tired of Ubuntu/Kubuntu after some 20 odd years.

Re: Linux 7.1

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uBlock Origin filter to block the anime girl from loading: ! Title: Hide Anubis Image */.within.website/x/cmd/anubis/static/img/*.webp$image (c) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46310941

Aw, but what have you against kawaii?

For me, it's a personal preference and in my opinion, it's less professional.

Re: Linux 7.1

#50

> Linux 7.1 is also notable for its code removals. Driven by AI-assisted bug reporting, ISDN and other old network driver code was removed to avoid that influx of bug reporting against those very rarely touched or used drivers for obsolete hardware. Moving really old and unused code out of the kernel just to get less AI-assisted bug reports is IMO one of the best consequence ever of AI. I love it. We should start tri…

How about we stop adding the fat in the first place. cough. electron. cough.

Presumably that old code was actually useful at the time it was added. It might not be used now, but it helped someone back then. One of the great things about early Linux was that it tried to run on every piece of hardware available. If Linus only wrote drivers (or allowed others to submit drivers) that worked on his personal computer, Linux would have never flourished this far.
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