This will go the same way other US export restrictions, eventually other nations found ways around to implement similar technologies, and stuff like PGP remains a niche technology, even though public/private keys based technology is widespread.
GLM 5.2 Is Out
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#372The trend also seems pretty clear. These models will keep getting better. Coding may already be close to a "solved" problem for LLMs. Yes ofc there will always be frontier stuff that you need gigantic cutting edge models for but let's be honest, most software is not that.
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#373For people whohave used GLM 5.1, I'm very curious what 5.2 is like. I use 5.1 on and off because it chokes on complex tasks (it ends up in a loop. maybe its because i can actually read the though proces, maybe opus does the same but we are not aware). Curious if 5.2 doesn't have this issue, then I am genuinely switching.
> It not only supports a truly usable 1M context window but also maintains a continuous lead in the independent completion of long-horizon tasks, providing solid foundational support for building complex agent applications.
Sounds like they have addressed this issue.
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#374It's starting to feel like we'll soon be able to run open source models on our own hardware and use them for serious coding projects. Even if some tasks still need to be handed off to larger closed source models, that's a huge improvement over where we are today. The trend also seems pretty clear. These models will keep getting better. Coding may already be close to a "solved" problem for LLMs. Yes ofc there will alw…
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#375Genuine question: How safe is it to use Chinese models via their services? Surely Anthropic and OpenAI are ingesting what I push there as well, but they're at least vaguely allied with my home country geopolitically. China on the other hand seems to be interested in supporting countries like Iran and Russia.
Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out
#376Genuine question: How safe is it to use Chinese models via their services? Surely Anthropic and OpenAI are ingesting what I push there as well, but they're at least vaguely allied with my home country geopolitically. China on the other hand seems to be interested in supporting countries like Iran and Russia.
They are releasing open models, so at-least up until now their advancements you can run yourself.
US frontier labs on the other hand keep it all to themselves. The moment they cut access you have nothing and your country will be stumped on and forced in making decisions not in your national interest.
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#377In the last few days, Chinese labs have given us MiniMaxM3, KimiK2.7 and now GLM5.2. Meanwhile US is censoring models. Reads like fiction.
I don’t understand how I grew up thinking USA is the gold standard is good and China just make cheap copies and is bad. But these news really changes my view on China and USA. I can’t believe it almost.
Hollywood.
Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out
#378Genuine question: How safe is it to use Chinese models via their services? Surely Anthropic and OpenAI are ingesting what I push there as well, but they're at least vaguely allied with my home country geopolitically. China on the other hand seems to be interested in supporting countries like Iran and Russia.
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#379Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Open weight models are basically immune to that Somewhat. The US Gov can make it illegal to transact with, download, use, etc. foreign open weight models. Of course, enforcement will be difficult for individuals (businesses will comply by default, and they would all be pulled off Github and other US based hosting locations if they went the sanctions route). But, we are also quickly going down the road of frightenin…
> Somewhat. The US Gov can make it illegal to transact with, download, use, etc. foreign open weight models. Presumably you mean in the USA (otherwise foreign means nothing)
Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out
#380Link to the Coding Plan (only way to get 5.2 right now): https://z.ai/subscribe