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>Amsterdam and Enschede are banning wide-tyre fat bikes from some central locations or parks What's the reason? Ordinary fatbikes aren't fast, and e-bikes are fast in any case.
They have the absolute worst reputation around Amsterdam.
20 km/h is nothing. On a bike lane you should be allowed to go normal biking speed
>Amsterdam and Enschede are banning wide-tyre fat bikes from some central locations or parks What's the reason? Ordinary fatbikes aren't fast, and e-bikes are fast in any case.
The reason is that the fat bikes are widely popular with young delinquents, typically of the immigrant kind. They have the absolute worst reputation around Amsterdam.
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The reason is that the fat bikes are widely popular with young delinquents, typically of the immigrant kind. They have the absolute worst reputation around Amsterdam.
You could’ve said what you said except the “immigrant kind” bit. I see enough Dutch assholes on fat bikes just as well. No need to be xenophobic here.
>Amsterdam and Enschede are banning wide-tyre fat bikes from some central locations or parks What's the reason? Ordinary fatbikes aren't fast, and e-bikes are fast in any case.
Most fatbikes have a much more powerful motor than a regular e-bike, and can be used without pedaling at all. They are listed as 250W, but it's actually a software-limited 750W motor. Local vendors provide unlock instructions along with the bike.
Instead of the 25km/h legal limit, they can go 40-50km/h: https://v8fatbike.com/how-to-unlock-ouxi-v8-speed-limit/
It's just a motorcycle in disguise. Then, to make matters worse, they weigh 30-40KG + two 12-year-olds on top - that, combined with reckless riding, can do a lot more damage than a boring cycling incident.
>Amsterdam and Enschede are banning wide-tyre fat bikes from some central locations or parks What's the reason? Ordinary fatbikes aren't fast, and e-bikes are fast in any case.
I live in Luxembourg and the infrastructure is not as good as the Netherlands. Majority of offenders (in my experience) are delivery guys and teenagers. Where teenagers simply don't care & do reckless things like passing on a big intersection at full speed on a red light, delivery guys do the same things for extra tips.
Some of the fat-tire electric bikes are really fast, I happen to chase them on Kirchberg cycle road. I sustained 40km/h average behind delivery guys and they were still faster, eventually dropping me. (I was on a road bike).
Simply put, anything above 250watts does not belong to cycle lane.Includes humans :j
The boundary between a bicycle and a motorbike has completely dissapeared. That boundary needs to be recovered, and then rules will make sense again, until then, any effort is futile.
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The reason is that the fat bikes are widely popular with young delinquents, typically of the immigrant kind. They have the absolute worst reputation around Amsterdam.
You could’ve said what you said except the “immigrant kind” bit. I see enough Dutch assholes on fat bikes just as well. No need to be xenophobic here.