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Announcement from the founder of Z.ai: “ GLM-5.2 is Fully Open, Frontier Intelligence Belongs to Everyone Today, the sudden restriction of certain frontier models is deeply regrettable. At a time when access to frontier models is abruptly cut off for non-technical reasons, we are even more convinced of one thing: science should be global. The path to AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) must never be enclosed by hig…

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Pretty much every large Chinese company has state capital baked into it, and these companies will follow the Chinese government's orders 100%. Don't believe anything a Chinese company says about being "open" or "for everyone." Backing any large Chinese company effectively means backing the Chinese government and its oppression in Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong—and maybe soon Taiwan, Southeast Asia, and elsewhere around the world.

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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post #19

With deluge of Chinese models popping up recently, I believe there's a few issues one needs to evaluate before deciding to use these models: - Ethics. As known, ou American frontier AI companies are incredibly ethical. And I have yet to see any interviews or blog posts by Chinese companies where they talk about how they are ethical, or at least credible HN comments about it. - Safety. Do they covertly sabotage or at…

This is brilliant, but you should have added some tag or something. You'll be confusing a lot of people and I really can't blame them. I think I've already seen all of these arguments used here seriously in one way or another.

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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With deluge of Chinese models popping up recently, I believe there's a few issues one needs to evaluate before deciding to use these models: - Ethics. As known, ou American frontier AI companies are incredibly ethical. And I have yet to see any interviews or blog posts by Chinese companies where they talk about how they are ethical, or at least credible HN comments about it. - Safety. Do they covertly sabotage or at…

I used to buy only American Ethics, but Chinese Ethics are becoming pretty good lately for the fraction of the price.

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Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you can see the CBRN weapon nexus in your examples that's missing from the Tiananmen prompt, right? Do American models refuse to tell you about COINTELPRO, Kent State, or My Lai, for instance?

American models are restricted from telling you inconvenient truths just as much, you just erroneously assume to know what those truths are in the first place. Which is of course circular thinking: why would they restrict things you already know about? Why would they do it in such a clumsy and obvious way? Look at MKULTRA, you know next to nothing about it and much less do you know what they do in that direction now.…

> American models are restricted from telling you inconvenient truths just as much, you just erroneously assume to know what those truths are in the first place.

“Trust me bro” is not a strong argument, it would be more convincing with examples.

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the idea that instructions to make weapons, and learning about history are comparable?

Censorship is censorship.

Is it? Would bioweapon instruction restrictions be equivalent to disallowing reporting on whether the government is massacring large numbers of citizens in your city? Both are ‘censorship’ but don’t seem remotely equivalent to me.
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