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Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by revolvingthrow »

ortekk wrote: post #19

With deluge of Chinese models popping up recently, I believe there's a few issues one needs to evaluate before deciding to use these models: - Ethics. As known, ou American frontier AI companies are incredibly ethical. And I have yet to see any interviews or blog posts by Chinese companies where they talk about how they are ethical, or at least credible HN comments about it. - Safety. Do they covertly sabotage or at…

The funniest thing about this post is not the fact that some people took it as anything but satire, but that it’s likely very close to what the true believers at Antrophic actually think.

Ah, those wacky terrorists and their non-aligned models, trained on copyrighted data to boot. Remember, the only thing that stops a guy with an evil god-in-a-box is a guy with a benevolent god-in-a-box, and only Antrophic can lead us to the second one – but only if we act together as a nation and ban those subversive open weights models!

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by swyx »

throwaw12 wrote: post #40

I wish they would write a blog post about capabilities of this new model, what to expect from this model, is it cheaper, is it faster or does it have better quality in the outputs. But still, thank you for the release

maybe wait til monday guys

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by CrazyStat »

revolvingthrow wrote: post #71
ortekk wrote: post #19

With deluge of Chinese models popping up recently, I believe there's a few issues one needs to evaluate before deciding to use these models: - Ethics. As known, ou American frontier AI companies are incredibly ethical. And I have yet to see any interviews or blog posts by Chinese companies where they talk about how they are ethical, or at least credible HN comments about it. - Safety. Do they covertly sabotage or at…

The funniest thing about this post is not the fact that some people took it as anything but satire, but that it’s likely very close to what the true believers at Antrophic actually think. Ah, those wacky terrorists and their non-aligned models, trained on copyrighted data to boot. Remember, the only thing that stops a guy with an evil god-in-a-box is a guy with a benevolent god-in-a-box, and only Antrophic can lead u…

> Remember, the only thing that stops a guy with an evil god-in-a-box is a guy with a benevolent god-in-a-box, and only Antrophic can lead us to the second one – but only if we act together as a nation and ban those subversive open weights models!

Eliezer Yudkowsky has made this argument explicitly, substituting himself for Anthropic.

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

#75

Post by easygenes »

Announcement from the founder of Z.ai:

“ GLM-5.2 is Fully Open, Frontier Intelligence Belongs to Everyone

Today, the sudden restriction of certain frontier models is deeply regrettable. At a time when access to frontier models is abruptly cut off for non-technical reasons, we are even more convinced of one thing: science should be global.

The path to AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) must never be enclosed by high walls. We have always believed that AGI should be the cornerstone for all of humanity to collaboratively explore the boundaries of intelligence and solve complex challenges, rather than a privilege monopolized by a few rules and subject to revocation at any moment. In the face of external blockades and restrictions, our attitude is one of radical openness. Frontier intelligence must remain open-source, accessible, and buildable, serving every dedicated developer.

GLM-5.2 is Zhipu's most capable open-source model to date. It not only supports a truly usable 1M context window but also maintains a continuous lead in the independent completion of long-horizon tasks, providing solid foundational support for building complex agent applications. It also continues to be our main engine for creating the strongest domestic coding model.

Tonight at 5:21—at this special moment—GLM-5.2 will officially be available to all GLM Coding Plan users (including Lite / Pro / Max). The API will also go live next week.

A step closer to frontier intelligence for everyone. The future of AI is open, and it is for the people. ModelKey: GLM-5.2”

https://x.com/jietang/status/2065784751345287314

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by hollerith »

CrazyStat wrote: post #74
revolvingthrow wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The funniest thing about this post is not the fact that some people took it as anything but satire, but that it’s likely very close to what the true believers at Antrophic actually think. Ah, those wacky terrorists and their non-aligned models, trained on copyrighted data to boot. Remember, the only thing that stops a guy with an evil god-in-a-box is a guy with a benevolent god-in-a-box, and only Antrophic can lead u…

> Remember, the only thing that stops a guy with an evil god-in-a-box is a guy with a benevolent god-in-a-box, and only Antrophic can lead us to the second one – but only if we act together as a nation and ban those subversive open weights models! Eliezer Yudkowsky has made this argument explicitly, substituting himself for Anthropic.

Yudkowksy gave up on trying to make a god-in-a-box to stop other gods-in-boxes in 2015. Since then his approach to stopping the gods-in-boxes has been to lobby governments.

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by orangeboats »

bbg2401 wrote: post #37
tiahura wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this a parody of the Chinese-funded anti-datacenter astroturfing?

That you and other readers can't outright identify the comment as parody is actually quite disturbing to me.

It is disturbing, and it is hard to blame them. Given the political climate nowadays, I guess it's really hard to tell what is satire and what is real anymore.

Sometimes I see batshit insane takes on places like X, thought they were just satire. Later it turned out the posters were actually being dead serious.

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by ozgung »

ortekk wrote: post #19

With deluge of Chinese models popping up recently, I believe there's a few issues one needs to evaluate before deciding to use these models: - Ethics. As known, ou American frontier AI companies are incredibly ethical. And I have yet to see any interviews or blog posts by Chinese companies where they talk about how they are ethical, or at least credible HN comments about it. - Safety. Do they covertly sabotage or at…

I used to buy only American Ethics, but Chinese Ethics are becoming pretty good lately for the fraction of the price.

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by mgc8 »

Is there any indication of what compute resources this will actually require (in its various incarnations)? Does it incorporate any of the optimisations pioneered by Google (such as TurboQuant, MTP) or some other original innovations to make the frontier quality realistically available to local users?

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by colordrops »

Xiol wrote: post #27
ortekk wrote: post #19

With deluge of Chinese models popping up recently, I believe there's a few issues one needs to evaluate before deciding to use these models: - Ethics. As known, ou American frontier AI companies are incredibly ethical. And I have yet to see any interviews or blog posts by Chinese companies where they talk about how they are ethical, or at least credible HN comments about it. - Safety. Do they covertly sabotage or at…

So hard to tell what is satire and what isn't these days.

This one's pretty easy dude.
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