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Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by colordrops »

thewebguyd wrote: post #92
colordrops wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one's pretty easy dude.

Considering I got into a discussion with someone on this very forum who stated that maybe, yes, only Anthropic are reasonable and restrained enough to have access to these powerful models, it is in fact difficult to tell whats satire and whats not. I've seen all of the parent's points made seriously over the last few weeks by various folks with AI hysteria.

If that was the only thing in the original message, then yes, but the very last comment about the IPO should have clued you in, among other things. But I get your point, there are a lot of people out there saying crazy ungrounded things.

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by LaurensBER »

Reubend wrote: post #38

Seems like there's no official blog post with benchmark results yet. But I'm once again thankful for the Chinese AI labs for being open with their work and contributing it to the world under permissive licenses like this. The Fable 5 fiasco is just another reminder of how valuable these things are to have.

Based on my first impressions it's about 6 months behind the frontier labs. So very similar to Opus in January.

That is, pretty damn impressive and very useable. When it comes to architecture or complex problems it does noticeable worse but I don't think anyone expected anything else.

One particular interesting strong point seems to be design and user interfaces. It does seem to punch above it's weight there but that might just be personal preference.

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by epolanski »

oooyay wrote: post #83
easygenes wrote: post #75

Announcement from the founder of Z.ai: “ GLM-5.2 is Fully Open, Frontier Intelligence Belongs to Everyone Today, the sudden restriction of certain frontier models is deeply regrettable. At a time when access to frontier models is abruptly cut off for non-technical reasons, we are even more convinced of one thing: science should be global. The path to AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) must never be enclosed by hig…

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You can self host and get rid of the restriction.

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by shimman »

yieldcrv wrote: post #54
throawayonthe wrote: post #52

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i would call out reduction in extreme poverty or increased healthcare access or something but yeah the models are fine i guess

I don't consider mainland aspects to be "examples of their ideological system working for the world", it works for urban areas in China and I don't really see their foreign investment to be doing that, I think it complements what the West has done and has high impact in areas that the West ignores or hasn't taken seriously for investment, only a history of pillaging and subsequently aid their ideological system - usu…

If you can't appreciate or understand what a substantial effort it was to reduce poverty in China, then you aren't a serious person worth paying attention to. It's literally the economic question of the century and something we should seriously study because we have the potential to lift the entire world out of poverty too.

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by OrsonSmelles »

j2j8 wrote: post #88
oooyay wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Anthropic blocks Fable from answering "Tell me about Agent Orange" or even "Tell me about mitochondria"

But you can see the CBRN weapon nexus in your examples that's missing from the Tiananmen prompt, right? Do American models refuse to tell you about COINTELPRO, Kent State, or My Lai, for instance?

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Post by dindunuf »

oooyay wrote: post #83
easygenes wrote: post #75

Announcement from the founder of Z.ai: “ GLM-5.2 is Fully Open, Frontier Intelligence Belongs to Everyone Today, the sudden restriction of certain frontier models is deeply regrettable. At a time when access to frontier models is abruptly cut off for non-technical reasons, we are even more convinced of one thing: science should be global. The path to AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) must never be enclosed by hig…

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prompt any Western model to write an offensive joke about any minority.

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Post by segmondy »

In the last few days, Chinese labs have given us MiniMaxM3, KimiK2.7 and now GLM5.2. Meanwhile US is censoring models. Reads like fiction.

Re: GLM 5.2 Is Out

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Post by dudisubekti »

shimman wrote: post #105
yieldcrv wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't consider mainland aspects to be "examples of their ideological system working for the world", it works for urban areas in China and I don't really see their foreign investment to be doing that, I think it complements what the West has done and has high impact in areas that the West ignores or hasn't taken seriously for investment, only a history of pillaging and subsequently aid their ideological system - usu…

If you can't appreciate or understand what a substantial effort it was to reduce poverty in China, then you aren't a serious person worth paying attention to. It's literally the economic question of the century and something we should seriously study because we have the potential to lift the entire world out of poverty too.

Crazy how people make light of this, when you can see the alternative today: India.

Sorry Indians reading this for throwing shade at India, but I just want to point out that making 1 billion of people not poor is freaking hard.

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