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Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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One infringes on a specific constitutional right. Also, this country would get even more dangerous without good citizens owning guns. IMO it's like herd immunity. Not everyone has guns. But the criminals don't know who does and who doesn't, so in a way they treat all homes as potentially being armed. Our criminals are already pretty care free, I can't imagine how much worse it would be if they KNEW no one was armed.

While there is some truth here, it's worth noting that firearms are far from a deterrent - these days, many criminals are often enraged by a victim having a gun and end up escalating further. Earlier this year there was a gang execution in Minneapolis that was prominent national news. The thugs were probably just going to kick the shit out of the victim, but when they discovered he merely had a gun, they took it from…

If the homeowners had a shotgun it would have been over quickly. Shotguns don't miss.

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Yes OP is saying they didn’t pay all cash for those shares

So they dont care about it? How is that relevant? If I have 5% of a company, I dont care if I traded services or cash for it.

> If I have 5% of a company

IF

You may not. The whole AI circular finance deals don't work that way. Maybe just maybe this 1 does but 90% don't. There's some SPV (special purpose vehicle) that holds some of the assets and leases it back to the main company. The backers sort of support the SPV and the lenders lose out.

For example SpaceX claimed to raise a huge round from Nvidia. They got maybe 5% of it as real cash. The rest is Nvidia taking its own GPUs into SPV and leasing it to SpaceX. Nothing changed hands.

Another example is see AMD's OpenAI deal. You get x% shares after using so much GPUs.

So there's shiny announcements and there's how much are real shares with no terms paid with cash.

> I dont care if I traded services or cash for it.

The point is you might not even have it OR it got massively diluted in creative ways.

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> Are there going to be bans on things that could be used to aid in school shootings next? No. Because us Americans don’t care about school shootings. I’d rather the government invest in S&P500 going higher. You overestimate how many people actually care about mass shootings in America.

I think you underestimate how many people actually care about mass shootings.

Thoughts and prayers doesn't count as truly caring

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> Researchers at Amazon had used a series of prompts to get Anthropic’s Fable 5 model to provide them with information that could be used to aid cyberattacks... Are there going to be bans on things that could be used to aid in school shootings next?

Canada had a school shooter that used ai tools and the public has not been informed of what happened in the chat

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I get what you’re saying but in the last 20 years can you think of any mass protest that accomplished anything substantial? I don’t really blame people for giving up on it as a tool for change. TBH only truly effective one I can think of would be Jan 6

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It was a protest as much as the Beer Hall Putsch was.

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While there is some truth here, it's worth noting that firearms are far from a deterrent - these days, many criminals are often enraged by a victim having a gun and end up escalating further. Earlier this year there was a gang execution in Minneapolis that was prominent national news. The thugs were probably just going to kick the shit out of the victim, but when they discovered he merely had a gun, they took it from…

If the homeowners had a shotgun it would have been over quickly. Shotguns don't miss.

There were like seven assailants, and the shot actually did hit one of them in the leg. This is what caused the others to retaliate. I don't think a shotgun would have helped. Unfortunately the incident was not a game of DOOM.

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I mean, for most of the world that is not the gotcha you think it is…

It's not supposed to be a gotcha, it's supposed to be an example of the hypocrisy of the government.

Similar example Ohio legislature makes it illegal to drive with any THC of Cannabis products in the passenger compartment to crack down on people driving high, but there is nothing to prevent you driving with an open bottle of prescription opiates or benzos and popping those while you drive.

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Very questionable and tone deaf response from Anthropic. Irrelevant whether it’s specific to Mythos or Haiku. Dario seems to be looking for an exit.

As a guy who's historically been a big Anthropic defender, I should acknowledge that I agree with what you're saying and expected a much better response. I have no idea what the underlying jailbreak is or if they're right it's not a big deal, but if you take the power of modern AI seriously, you should be pretty sympathetic to the government's actions here even if you think they got it wrong in this case. (Could the…

I think the explanation is just ordinary arrogance. “AI is too dangerous for them to develop. We, of course, know what we’re doing.”

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It’s unclear what Jassy’s angle was here doing this. It’s pretty bad news for Anthropic though. They had built up some real momentum but am waking up this morning to nearly everyone I know outside the US shifting use off Anthropic. There is no loyalty or revenue stickiness here. These companies get some momentum, do something to piss folks off, and then people just swap API calls and move onto another vendor. It’s a…

> waking up this morning to nearly everyone I know outside the US shifting use off Anthropic.

Why would anyone switch yet? They have the same models they did four days ago.

Do you mean ensuring they can switch quickly, or putting in place systems to be able to shift their traffic more easily?

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