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Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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First of all I found that fable is trained in a way that even if you were to jailbreak it, it would be completely uninterested in exploitation or finding creative solutions for explotation. However, I am unable to verify if this is related to them doing secretive prompt injection. Opus 4.8 is far more powerful in that regard. As for jailbreaking if anyone is interested: I used a fork of oh-my-pi that was modified in…

$6000 of usage in three days???

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#32
> Researchers at Amazon had used a series of prompts to get Anthropic’s Fable 5 model to provide them with information that could be used to aid cyberattacks...

Are there going to be bans on things that could be used to aid in school shootings next?

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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> Researchers at Amazon had used a series of prompts to get Anthropic’s Fable 5 model to provide them with information that could be used to aid cyberattacks... Are there going to be bans on things that could be used to aid in school shootings next?

I mean, for most of the world that is not the gotcha you think it is…

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#35
Amazon owns 5% of Anthropic. I doubt this is the outcome they wanted.

This is the government trying to swing its dick around and kill Anthropic because they wouldn't allow mass domestic surveillance with their models.

They're sending a message to the tech industry as well: "do as we say, or die."

This is the result of decades of Congress abdicating power to the executive.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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I agree! The concerns must have been very serious indeed to overcome Amazon's strong incentives to not bring them up and let Anthropic keep pulling in the revenue from their new frontier model.

Or they're trying to hype up an investment...

That doesn't really make sense. If Amazon wanted to build hype, wouldn't they have talked publicly about this? What's the point of working hard on a hype strategy and then delivering it only in private to government officials?

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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But Amazon has a fairly large equity position in Anthropic. Why mess with that?

> But Amazon has a fairly large equity position in Anthropic. Why mess with that? Read the fine prints. None of these hyperscaler deals are $ for equity. It's some provide hosting, rentals etc. With how things are going they can just find another customer.

> None of these hyperscaler deals are $ for equity.

As of Feb, Amazon held $45.8 billion of convertible notes and $14.8 billion of nonvoting preferred stock in Anthropic.

Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-ai-bet-anthropic-soar...

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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post #31

First of all I found that fable is trained in a way that even if you were to jailbreak it, it would be completely uninterested in exploitation or finding creative solutions for explotation. However, I am unable to verify if this is related to them doing secretive prompt injection. Opus 4.8 is far more powerful in that regard. As for jailbreaking if anyone is interested: I used a fork of oh-my-pi that was modified in…

$6000 of usage in three days???

3x 20x accounts + they reset a couple of times.

Re: Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

#40

Amazon owns 5% of Anthropic. I doubt this is the outcome they wanted. This is the government trying to swing its dick around and kill Anthropic because they wouldn't allow mass domestic surveillance with their models. They're sending a message to the tech industry as well: "do as we say, or die." This is the result of decades of Congress abdicating power to the executive.

Amazon has up to 33 billion in Antrophic, but up to 50 billion in OpenAI. They need keep both of them in balance, to mitigate the threat of being disintermediated.
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