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Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by resonious »

ivraatiems wrote: post #112

When you spend a lot of time telling people how dangerous your products are, people who have the power to keep dangerous products off the market might listen. Especially if those people aren't presently very bright, and are already mad at you for not helping them achieve their unrelated authoritarian goals. I do not think this is somehow a 3D chess move by Anthropic. They are not masterminds, even if they'd really li…

My gut reaction was that it does look like a PR stunt. But indeed it might also be a blunder caused by all of their other PR stunts. "Our new stuff is soooo dangerous!!", followed by "The US government believed us and acted accordingly".

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by ninjagoo »

ivraatiems wrote: post #112

When you spend a lot of time telling people how dangerous your products are, people who have the power to keep dangerous products off the market might listen. Especially if those people aren't presently very bright, and are already mad at you for not helping them achieve their unrelated authoritarian goals. I do not think this is somehow a 3D chess move by Anthropic. They are not masterminds, even if they'd really li…

> I do not think this is somehow a 3D chess move by Anthropic. They are not masterminds, even if they'd really like to be.

They should have consulted their own models about the ramifications and unintended consequences; based on their actions over the past few months I think it is safe to say that the models are smarter than the decision-makers at anthropic, lol. I know the models are smarter than I am and even I could have told them that they were taking paths, FUD for example, that would lead to grief.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by nijave »

Well, it sounds like someone in the govt finally got to page 67 and decided that's enough to "stick it to Anthropic"

https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/d00db56fa754a1b115b6dd7cb2e3c3...

That said, Mythos doesn't seem to be exceptionally good but closer to "following the established trend in improvements"

https://www.aisi.gov.uk/blog/our-evaluation-of-claude-mythos...

https://www.aisi.gov.uk/blog/how-fast-is-autonomous-ai-cyber...

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by Aboutplants »

ndneighbor wrote: post #316

I see a lot of analysis here that this is good for Ant, but I beg to differ, it's a very bad place to be as a company serving enterprises when deployment risk is now present. This might delay Ant's financial goals in their ability to monetize Fable and other Mythos class models.

Yeah this is not good business wise long term. Short term marketing you maybe get some boost but actual business impact is negative. Their whole current business depends on massive exponential growth and handcuffing them removes their frontier advantage. Cheap models are now the focus of any and everyone
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