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Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#51

Nothing but the highest quality drama and theater from Anthropic, as always

Ah yes, the US government forcing private companies to stop selling their products is totally a sign of Anthropic's drama and not our paranoiac fascist regime.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#53

My agitating prayer is that other nations (even so called US allies) will nationalise what they can (ie model weights already deployed within their jurisdictions). This is the only way to respond to a rogue US administration.

> other nations will nationalise what they can

The only other relevant players are France and China.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#55
If USG bans these models, what is the game plan wrt Chinese models? Will they also ban these (and how, esp open source)? And if not, how is this not throwing the ball game to China? There is no top-down control without international cooperation which, let’s face it, is not happening.

Another interpretation, of course, is that this is just US putting a thumb on the scale for US competitors around IPO time. It will be interesting to see if there are any fingerprints.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#56
post #23

Really sick of this stupid narrative. The most ethical goal of an AI lab or government should be to bring the maximum amount of intelligence for as cheap as possible to the people equally.

Prefacing that I assume this order is done with ill intent, and would guess that it’s based on Anthropic not bending the knee immediately like OpenAI did.

But your statement could be rephrased as

> The most ethical goal of a weapons manufacturer or government should be to bring the maximum number of nuclear weapons for as cheap as possible to the people equally.

Making sure everyone is a strapped as possible only makes sense to the type of libertarians who salivate at the idea of shooting someone who steps on their property to deliver a letter

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#57
post #23

Really sick of this stupid narrative. The most ethical goal of an AI lab or government should be to bring the maximum amount of intelligence for as cheap as possible to the people equally.

Agreed 100%. I don't understand why we have to fear access to knowledge.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#58
post #6

Finally they will pay for all the scaremongering they been doing to sell their models as something so much ahead of all else. Now they finally found the right fools in audience to believe it.

Based on this, it seems like the Trump admin would have targeted them even without the "scaremongering":

> To date, the government has only given us verbal evidence of a potential narrow, non-universal jailbreak, which essentially consists of asking the model to read a specific codebase and fix any software flaws. Our understanding is that one potential jailbreak was shared with the government. We have reviewed the report and validated that the level of capability displayed there is widely available from other models (including OpenAI’s GPT-5.5), and is used every day by the defenders who keep systems safe.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#59

> The US government, citing national security authorities, has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by any foreign national, whether inside or outside the United States, including foreign national Anthropic employees. The net effect of this order is that we must abruptly disable Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for all our customers to ensure compliance. How will this be implemented/ve…

> we must abruptly disable Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for all our customers

What’s not clear?

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