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Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Anyone lost access yet? Fable is still working for me on https://claude.ai/ and in Claude Code. UPDATE: I lost access at 6:59pm pacific.

It identifies as Fable 5 for me, but it could just be Opus with the Fable system prompt.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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So isn’t the only logical conclusion that we have reached the max of model capabilities that the US allows to be made available to the public? Why invest in smarter models with this precedent? And potentially more importantly: if a model like Mythos, which at best is an incremental improvement over Opus, is getting this treatment, how are all the AI investments that are based on the expectation of ASI / AGI / signifi…

> So isn’t the only logical conclusion that we have reached the max of model capabilities that the US allows to be made available to the public? Why invest in smarter models with this precedent?

95% odds this gets reversed by Monday morning is why

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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post #6

Finally they will pay for all the scaremongering they been doing to sell their models as something so much ahead of all else. Now they finally found the right fools in audience to believe it.

And now is this going to be a one-off, or routine with every new generation of models?

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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post #90

> The US government, citing national security authorities, has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by any foreign national, whether inside or outside the United States, including foreign national Anthropic employees There's no way they have the authority to actually order this and not just request this right? If crypto is speech... LLMs definitely are...

They do have the authority to do this, Anthropic has the ability to appeal it in court, up to the SCOTUS. Lord only knows what our crazy ass judges in that court will do though.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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post #6

Finally they will pay for all the scaremongering they been doing to sell their models as something so much ahead of all else. Now they finally found the right fools in audience to believe it.

You call it scare-mongering. Others, serious thinkers and leaders in the AI and national security space, believe, maybe not scare-mongering enough.

AI is a national security issue. Best accept that as fact, or you won't see it coming.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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post #6

Finally they will pay for all the scaremongering they been doing to sell their models as something so much ahead of all else. Now they finally found the right fools in audience to believe it.

This affects more than just Anthropic. It's a game of thrones and everyone using this technology loses. I wouldn't cheer for that.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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I haven’t seen anyone commenting on the difference between what the Government actually demanded vs what they did. They said no foreign nationals (regardless of location or residency). They actually didn’t say they couldn’t allow Americans to use it.

Now, we obviously know that without some kind of brand new ID check, such a thing would be impossible and thus they had to just shut it down. But this touches on the same kind of issue as all the noise about “for the children” ID checking. We might be soon to see the set of “things you’ll have to reveal your identity to the government to get,” expand from “just” porn and social media to the “good” AI models.

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