A company with different taste would redo that apple ad from the Power Mac era: “this model has been classified a munition”.
Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#112When you spend a lot of time telling people how dangerous your products are, people who have the power to keep dangerous products off the market might listen.
Especially if those people aren't presently very bright, and are already mad at you for not helping them achieve their unrelated authoritarian goals.
I do not think this is somehow a 3D chess move by Anthropic. They are not masterminds, even if they'd really like to be. People who actually interact with their products know that Fable and Mythos are incremental improvements, not doomsday devices. I think this is a punitive move by an administration that loves being punitive, which they have unknowingly bolstered with their own dumb rhetoric.
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#113Listen - that's the sound of millions of companies and users doubling down on Chinese models.
It might be a national security problem for other nations to have access to these models. But it's equally now a national security problem for any other nation to depend on them. Or US tech in general.
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#114Anyone lost access yet? Fable is still working for me on https://claude.ai/ and in Claude Code. UPDATE: I lost access at 6:59pm pacific.
ssshhhh don't tell anybody it's still working, i have some stuff to do :-)
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#115Ok, so why can i still access fable? Did they forgot to pull the cable?
Probably silently rerouting?
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#116For large corporates and other entities of any size, the threat of the core of your infrastructure getting suddenly disabled because of something like this is going to be untenable. I predict the pressures for on-prem, offline access (whether by licensing weights or getting them in a restricted setting like TEE/CC) will be overwhelming and one the players will fill the need.
Likely many points along the pareto frontier.
Some will take greater risks and win (or lose); others will play it safer and slowly accumulate wins (or be obsoleted).
Never mind the threat of letting these models write code that runs your business, or operate it agentically. Models trained by actors (corporate or nationstate) diametrically opposed to your interests.
Lots to take into account now, interesting time to be in business.
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#117Finally they will pay for all the scaremongering they been doing to sell their models as something so much ahead of all else. Now they finally found the right fools in audience to believe it.
I would more easily guess that it is a revenge of Trump for Anthropic humiliating him when he wanted to use it without control for military purpose. And indeed it used against them their own marketing allegations.
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#118Begun, the AI wars have.
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#119I'm surprised that (all) these models haven't been export controlled already. Relatively benign software like VMware is export controlled or even hobbyist radio projects have gotten hairy with ITAR. But a model that can provide general information, research, or source code for most modern technology? It is really unusual that this is the first notice of this
it already blocks users from Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Russia etc
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#120Interesting to see Anthropic now downplaying the new vulnerabilities that Mythos discovered: > We reviewed a demonstration of this specific technique being used to identify a small number of previously known, minor vulnerabilities. These vulnerabilities all appear relatively simple, and we have found that other publicly-available models are able to discover them as well without requiring a bypass
AFAICT this is not talking about Glasswing stuff. They are saying that they were sent a demonstration of Fable 5 being used/abused in some specific way that led to the "discovery" of some minor, already-known vuln, and that other models can find it too. IOW, they're claiming that the USG's complaint is baseless and dumb.