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Elon Musk Becomes First Trillionaire as SpaceX Starts Trading

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Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Trillionaire as SpaceX Starts Trading

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If you're right, that's great news for you, as you can make tons of money buying Spacex puts

Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. - John Maynard Keynes

This quote refers to shorting; it's not applicable to every bear position anyone ever attempts to take. You won't go insolvent buying puts.

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Trillionaire as SpaceX Starts Trading

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The stock, and subsequently the stock market, is so detached from reality. For the life of me, I can’t understand why investors will literally put a 100x premium on Musk, and the things he touches. I feel like I’m living in some alternative universe.

Have you watched a Starship launch? The more I understand the incredible feats of engineering they are performing the more bullish I become.

It doesn't make money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X6YzlY_8tM

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You seem to live in the real reality, and presumably people care about what you think there because it’s actually real. So why not enlighten us, help explain it to us deluded people? Or you can just be rude and vague.

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Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Trillionaire as SpaceX Starts Trading

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Yeah but he can borrow against it and not pay any taxes.

Do people do that? Can I e.g. borrow against my assets and not pay any taxes? Curious to learn more.

This strategy is not a traditional loan with interest and regular payments. If you try to live on regular loans it doesn't make any sense. It's a scheme mostly only available to HNW people where they repay upon death in certain tax loophole ways.

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Trillionaire as SpaceX Starts Trading

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The stock, and subsequently the stock market, is so detached from reality. For the life of me, I can’t understand why investors will literally put a 100x premium on Musk, and the things he touches. I feel like I’m living in some alternative universe.

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Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Trillionaire as SpaceX Starts Trading

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post #35

The stock, and subsequently the stock market, is so detached from reality. For the life of me, I can’t understand why investors will literally put a 100x premium on Musk, and the things he touches. I feel like I’m living in some alternative universe.

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The stock market is not definitionally "reality" in the sense being used. It's perfectly fine to look at the stock market and consider it "detached from reality", in the sense being said.

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Trillionaire as SpaceX Starts Trading

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Musk has killed hundreds of thousands of people with his reckless dismantling of USAID (https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/how-elon-musk-killed-hun...) and actively promotes white supremacy and race riots on Twitter. The Georges Ruggiu of social media.

Meanwhile, here in our little tech bubble, we pretend it's not happening -- that he's not spending half the day amplifying some of the literal worst people on Earth and blathering about how immigrants are coming to rape our culture. Just focus on the IPO. Don't look behind the curtain.

Where is a good chunk of this newfound money going to go? Into the pockets of AfD, Reform, and other far-right monsters around the world.

It's all just... abhorrent. Beyond words. Regretfully, I start to understand the state of society that can foment revolution. Never before have I felt such impotent fury at the state of things.

I can only hope his career ends as Ruggiu's once did: in shackles in front of an international tribunal.

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Trillionaire as SpaceX Starts Trading

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post #20

The stock, and subsequently the stock market, is so detached from reality. For the life of me, I can’t understand why investors will literally put a 100x premium on Musk, and the things he touches. I feel like I’m living in some alternative universe.

Have you watched a Starship launch? The more I understand the incredible feats of engineering they are performing the more bullish I become.

Starship and anything space related is like 5% of the valuation.

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Trillionaire as SpaceX Starts Trading

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Yeah but he can borrow against it and not pay any taxes.

If you borrow against it you still have to pay interest. If he somehow found someone to loan him $1T, which would probably be practically impossible, the interest would make the total amount he got less than $1T.

Correct, he couldn't borrow $1T from one person with $1T as collateral.

Re: Elon Musk Becomes First Trillionaire as SpaceX Starts Trading

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Have you watched a Starship launch? The more I understand the incredible feats of engineering they are performing the more bullish I become.

It doesn't make money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X6YzlY_8tM

Starship is still in development. Do you think the next generation of the iPhone is a waste of time because it doesn't make money yet?

The stock price reflects the potential of the business in the future as well as its current concrete value.

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