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Re: Show HN: FablePool – pool money behind a prompt, and Fable builds it in public

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Post by realty_geek »

Would love to see non-technical audiences think like this.

For years I've been trying to get estate agents to support an open-source real estate website builder. The pitch is obvious: instead of each agent paying thousands for a bespoke site, pool resources, fund the features you all need, and everyone benefits.

Getting non-technical people to commit to something abstract before it exists is nearly impossible though. Hope a model like FablePool can change that.

For the website builder, the open-source product is already there: https://github.com/etewiah/property_web_builder. It just needs momentum.

Re: Show HN: FablePool – pool money behind a prompt, and Fable builds it in public

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Post by pitched »

thayne wrote: post #146
pitched wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of AWS is built on open-source. This is obviously ignoring hardware costs. I don’t know if it is all that ridiculous anymore. These models are very good at wiring together open-source systems. The world is crazy right now…

AWS has over 200 services, so that's a little over $2 per service. Yeah, a lot of it is built on OSS, but there is a ton of it, and there is also a lot of work involved in building the APIs and web UI, and making it scalable , secure, and resilient. Now, you might be able to make a version of some small subset of aws services that runs works ok for a small scale for with relatively simple needs, for that many tokens,…

> you might be able to make a version of some small subset of aws services that runs works ok

lol, you’ve got that goblet of koolaid with me! Equal parts horrifying and interesting that it might not be impossible

Re: Show HN: FablePool – pool money behind a prompt, and Fable builds it in public

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Post by FearNotDaniel »

fny wrote: post #143
timcobb wrote: post #128

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I think pooling/donating tokens will be a thing. Not sure if like this, but in some format. The Django project, for example, came out and said they don't want your tokens, but I think a lot of people/projects will (do?) want your tokens.

Why not just give a project money and let them decide how to spend?

I guess if you have a subscription with a token allowance that you are not going to use up this week, it’s better to let someone else use those tokens rather than throwing them away. So using the food analogy it’s more like a store giving away unsold sandwiches to the homeless at the end of the day instead of throwing them away.

Re: Show HN: FablePool – pool money behind a prompt, and Fable builds it in public

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Post by pitched »

NewJazz wrote: post #194
thayne wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS has over 200 services, so that's a little over $2 per service. Yeah, a lot of it is built on OSS, but there is a ton of it, and there is also a lot of work involved in building the APIs and web UI, and making it scalable , secure, and resilient. Now, you might be able to make a version of some small subset of aws services that runs works ok for a small scale for with relatively simple needs, for that many tokens,…

IAM for example is in house and integrates with every service. Sometimes in deep ways.

I’m on your side in that I would never take a contract to actually do this, but…

If we swapped out the IAM backend for something extremely simple like just private keys (one per allowed service or JWT-style list all services in the key), then we could have something that looks/feels pretty similar. With a 2$ token spend.

Not at all the same but it would look/feel pretty close.

Re: Show HN: FablePool – pool money behind a prompt, and Fable builds it in public

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Post by Ajedi32 »

digdugdirk wrote: post #168
bensyverson wrote: post #18

This idea reads like a joke, but there's something to it. One feature request: In addition to high-level milestones, it would be cool if a partially-funded project would generate a public, highly detailed implementation plan. Also, IANAL but MIT is still a license with a copyright holder. I don't think saying "it's MIT, we all own it" is defensible. The courts might view all this code as public domain.

I've always wanted to figure out how to implement a cooperative source license. Something like, you're allowed to do what you want with it, but any derivative work requires the same license, and X% of any income goes to the cooperative? Not sure how it'd work, but there's absolutely a niche for a privacy focused data cooperative out there.

> X% of any income

Any income from what? The code is free, right? X% of your company's total revenue? Might as well just say "companies can't use this".

Personally I like the idea of a "free as in freedom but not free as in beer" license. You have to pay for a copy of the software, but after that you're free to use and modify it as you please, and share/sell your modifications under the same license.

To turn that into a cooperative you could have a company own the code and pay developers in shares of the company for PRs or other contributioins.

Re: Show HN: FablePool – pool money behind a prompt, and Fable builds it in public

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Post by sigmar »

guessmyname wrote: post #204
sigmar wrote: post #167

I'd love to see Anthropic (or someone with mythos access) create a cybersecurity version of this. So that I could create a pool that says "find security concerns in this github repo." Then the report from mythos gets sent to the code/project maintainer and revealed to the public (that paid for it) at the 90 day mark.

For your information, a group of Mythos-approved users at Apple, Google, Microsoft, and several other Project Glasswing partners have already been doing this for the past few months. We just can’t share many details publicly yet.

Who foots the bill?

Re: Show HN: FablePool – pool money behind a prompt, and Fable builds it in public

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Post by [deleted] »

plq wrote: post #211
8note wrote: post #73

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if fable is writing it, courts my declare that its not even public domain? not a copywrightable work

I don't get this. No I did not write that code but I paid money to eg. Anthropic to buy that code. To me it sounds like I own it just the same.

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Re: Show HN: FablePool – pool money behind a prompt, and Fable builds it in public

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Post by sanreds »

pjc50 wrote: post #232
bensyverson wrote: post #18

This idea reads like a joke, but there's something to it. One feature request: In addition to high-level milestones, it would be cool if a partially-funded project would generate a public, highly detailed implementation plan. Also, IANAL but MIT is still a license with a copyright holder. I don't think saying "it's MIT, we all own it" is defensible. The courts might view all this code as public domain.

I wonder why people are more eager to pool money to pay a corporate-owned computer to build things than to the actual humans who have been building open source for decades? Much of which has ended up in the training set?

Fablepool spends Anthropic's inference budget and puts the output under MIT, thats not growing Anthropic's moat, its commoditizing it. Anthropic just sells the API calls either way.

Re: Show HN: FablePool – pool money behind a prompt, and Fable builds it in public

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Post by cwnyth »

fragmede wrote: post #239
cwnyth wrote: post #129

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Beat me to it by minutes.

You don't list contact info on your profile page to contact you with, but I'd love someone (other than Fable/a bot) to work on this with, and you're clearly a like minded individual, so reach out

I sent you an email.
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