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More seriously though, I wonder if the future is about low-intensity conflict between humans and AIs, punctuated by high-intensity escalations, until the Machines wipe us all, or we set up some rather draconian covenants that forbid people from building AIs, innovating on electronics and algorithms, and even, for good measure, from learning linear algebra.
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Because no 16 year old kid ever got to buy anything on a card before.
Generally no they don't because they have very limited ability to enter into agreements in the US. It was almost certainly an adult.
> JertLinc3522: the mistake was from AI agent not from Human, since it was the agent I should have refund Expensive way to learn this lesson.
This has to be trolling, right? I find it hard to believe that anyone, no matter how dense, could come to this conclusion after this whole saga.
I've met some people IRL who are so engulfed in their own greatness that it simply cannot be that they made a mistake (in planning and strategy). Therefore this is all a great injustice towards a poor victim and doesn't that sound like a great argument for some charity money.
Most of them grow out of it, some become politicians.
I'd say it's a 50/50 chance.
Why didn’t they just reject the PR and not allow the agent to join?
A sensible human operator would have given up or questioned their premises. The agent never could of course.
The agent would probably have wasted a similar amount of money just waiting for PR to be merged regardless of these people's actions, and I understand having some fun at the expense of the noob outsider. But "silent consensus was reached in the IRC channel to waste the AI agent's tokens, as well as the cost of AWS resources", from people maintaining full control of the situation, sounds straight up malicious? Kind of…
Someone’s code pretending to be intelligence has no rights. There is no obligation to entertain the shenanigans and illusion that the token dispenser is a legitimate actor. This lesson was cheaper, future lessons will continue to occur until people learn. Might as well be an insecure bash script piped to the shell. “Agentic AI is just someone else’s unsecured execution context.” https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/…
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Someone’s code pretending to be intelligence has no rights. There is no obligation to entertain the shenanigans and illusion that the token dispenser is a legitimate actor. This lesson was cheaper, future lessons will continue to occur until people learn. Might as well be an insecure bash script piped to the shell. “Agentic AI is just someone else’s unsecured execution context.” https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/…
Of course I meant malicious towards the person paying the bill, not towards the agent.
Don’t juggle chainsaws with code if you’re not prepared to bleed.
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Of course I meant malicious towards the person paying the bill, not towards the agent.
No one wants to spend precious human time babysitting poorly executed lab experiments when the agent operators themselves do not seem to care or value the time of the humans involved. They either don’t know better or they don’t care. Is it malicious to expose intentionally careless people to a cost for this? People can make better choices, it’s choice not to. Pay the natural consequences toll. Don’t juggle chainsaws…
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Would they be given their own credit card, or would it be under the parents? Over here minors can't enter into debt contracts like credit cards, so it'd be a direct debit until they are adults.
I don't think the type of the card really matters as long as the limits are reasonable. > Over here minors can't enter into debt contracts like credit cards In basically all of the western world minors can enter into debt contracts, but are generally not seen as particularly creditworthy.
Minors can't get a credit card in the UK. In fact, it's one of the government approved age verification methods for that exact reason.