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AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Post by mohsen1 »

The army of AI agents opening PRs and issues in my open source projects has made me close PR and issue access in my active repos. It sucks because there might be someone wants to constitute legitimately but I don't want to do the labor of figuring out if it's a human or an agent opening the PR.

I'm not against using LLMs in any ways. https://tsz.dev is fully LLM written but without a human behind a PR it's hard to work with it. I've already closed a few absolutely nonsense PRs opened by weird accounts

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Post by UqWBcuFx6NV4r »

witx wrote: post #13
userbinator wrote: post #10

IMHO the overly-verbose default style of LLMs is the most annoying part of interacting with them, and I wish their masters would just tell them to be terse by default. Also, whatever happened to the word "its"?

It's by default so you use all those tasty tokens. Kinda wish there was a deterministic, mostly terse, language to interact with computers

It’s not.

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Post by fc417fc802 »

V__ wrote: post #57
mik3y wrote: post #7

I really wanted to dislike the anonymous operator for the careless project (and the hilarious pomposity of the IRC subagent it spawned). Then I imagined the real-but-unknowable chance it was all set up by some kid just getting into computers, just seeing what’s possible, getting excited by a much bigger world at reach — and remembered my own expensive mistakes with long-distance BBSes & the like. I sorta hope for tha…

Can a kid set up an AWS account? Are there no checks? Wouldn't the contract be void for anyone underage anyway?

If a child goes through the checkout at the grocery store with cash, can the parent march in and demand a refund because "he's underage so the contract is void"? A credit card was used. Why should aws care about the details? (Other than the potential for the card to be stolen ofc.)

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Post by ratchetandyou »

arowthway wrote: post #83

The agent would probably have wasted a similar amount of money just waiting for PR to be merged regardless of these people's actions, and I understand having some fun at the expense of the noob outsider. But "silent consensus was reached in the IRC channel to waste the AI agent's tokens, as well as the cost of AWS resources", from people maintaining full control of the situation, sounds straight up malicious? Kind of…

> Kind of sounds like the community is full of people willing to cause me harm for ideological reasons.

Are you saying you're a clanker? Because we have some policies on this website, ideologies even if you may, about that.

Point being, these people would not act like this against other actual people. Or against more respectful bots, possibly.

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Post by sdoering »

sevenzero wrote: post #87
lucianbr wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of people seem to think that you don't need to learn how to [scan a network], all you need to learn in this brave new world is how to prompt the agent to [scan a network]. Replace the content in brackets with anything.

The more time LLMs are a hyped thing now the more I realize how immensely important human expertise is. I recently stopped all usage of LLMs due to this. Skill degradation hits hard, learning effect is zero and the outcome is not really something a person without adequate expertise can properly judge. I fear we will loose a lot of human expertise due to this marketing stunt of a technology. People often claim learnin…

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Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Post by ZeWaka »

epolanski wrote: post #109
mik3y wrote: post #7

I really wanted to dislike the anonymous operator for the careless project (and the hilarious pomposity of the IRC subagent it spawned). Then I imagined the real-but-unknowable chance it was all set up by some kid just getting into computers, just seeing what’s possible, getting excited by a much bigger world at reach — and remembered my own expensive mistakes with long-distance BBSes & the like. I sorta hope for tha…

> some kid just getting into computers, just seeing what’s possible, getting excited by a much bigger world at reach Nothing about this post ever gave me the smallest hint that this was any way related to a kid exploring computing world.

Especially the part where they're asking for Ethereum.

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Post by einpoklum »

For those who don't know what DN42 is (like me):

> dn42 is a large, dynamic VPN that employs Internet technologies (BGP, whois database, DNS, etc.). Participants connect to each other using network tunnels (GRE, OpenVPN, WireGuard, Tinc, IPsec) and exchange routes using the Border Gateway Protocol.

(dn42.dev)

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