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Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a fairly young developer so managed to avoid the IE6 problems. Can you elaborate on which MS decisions you preferred over w3c?

The infamous IE box model is one thing where you could debate that one or the other was preferable.

Thanks to box-sizing we can finally have both, but thing haven't always been like this.

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#32

This ad isn't about the merits of IE as a browser, this ad is about building a preformed thought in the common users mind whenever they hear someone bash IE. IE hasn't been the victim of bad PR, it has earned it's reputation through years of blood/sweat/tears by the hands of developers. Microsoft recognizes that they won't be able to change this attitude in the developer community, but that they can lessen the weight…

With all 300 views...I doubt it will change anything at all.

(EDIT: MY opinion will say the same until that view counter says a million and I highly doubt it will even get close. The only people who really care anyway are the "trolls" that Microsoft is talking about!)

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#34
post #32

This ad isn't about the merits of IE as a browser, this ad is about building a preformed thought in the common users mind whenever they hear someone bash IE. IE hasn't been the victim of bad PR, it has earned it's reputation through years of blood/sweat/tears by the hands of developers. Microsoft recognizes that they won't be able to change this attitude in the developer community, but that they can lessen the weight…

With all 300 views...I doubt it will change anything at all. (EDIT: MY opinion will say the same until that view counter says a million and I highly doubt it will even get close. The only people who really care anyway are the "trolls" that Microsoft is talking about!)

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Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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post #32

This ad isn't about the merits of IE as a browser, this ad is about building a preformed thought in the common users mind whenever they hear someone bash IE. IE hasn't been the victim of bad PR, it has earned it's reputation through years of blood/sweat/tears by the hands of developers. Microsoft recognizes that they won't be able to change this attitude in the developer community, but that they can lessen the weight…

With all 300 views...I doubt it will change anything at all. (EDIT: MY opinion will say the same until that view counter says a million and I highly doubt it will even get close. The only people who really care anyway are the "trolls" that Microsoft is talking about!)

Usually a video with 301 views means it's suddenly exploded virally. YouTube 'stops counting' temporarily at 300 views whilst it verifies that a video is being legitimately viewed by many people in a short space of time, rather than people artificially inflating their viewcount by whatever methods they can.

In a matter of minutes or hours that number will suddenly increase significantly.

So it's an anti-spam measure. There's a short explainer here: http://www.seroundtable.com/youtube-301-views-15347.html

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#36

I actually kinda like the ad, because the guy could be me in a heartbeat, i even own the same keyboard xD. However the hate in me burns with the power of a thousand sons, when it comes to IE. The almost constant changes of MS standards with each new version of IE, inevitably breaks something, and will often require separate CSS styling.. And dont get me started on maintaining an app, that was built on IE6.. If I was…

At least give Microsoft credit: IE10 is a modern, standards-compliant browser. And, you know, IE6 was actually the best web browser out there for a long time.

It was, though it was also designed with Embrace, Extend, Extinguish in mind. ActiveX anybody?

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#37
This was just submitted a few hours ago:

http://cbateman.com/blog/whats-missing-in-internet-explorer-...

That's probably not even the full list of what's missing in IE10, as html5test puts IE10 way below the others in HTML5 features:

http://html5test.com/results/desktop.html

I wouldn't hold my breath for WebGL appearing even in IE11. Whatever Microsoft is saying, the "security" of WebGL is not the main reason why Microsoft is not the adopting it - not even close. Just like security is also not the main reason why Apple is not allowing other JS engines on iOS.

The security reason is used mainly as a "reasonable" excuse to cover for the real reason why they aren't implementing it (they obviously don't want OpenGL to gain anymore traction that it has already gained in mobile and Linux). If security would be an excuse to not implement something, we'd probably still be in the dark ages of the web. Consider Flash, it's one of the least secure pieces of software out there, and yet it's also what enabled video on the web for everyone. It's the reason Youtube exists today.

The lack of support for XP, which is still like 40% of the market, means Chrome is still by far the most secure browser on XP, which is something companies who aren't going to get new PC's and Windows licenses anytime soon should start considering.

No full screen API, no Web Audio API, and no WebRTC (and no Opus either) are also very regrettable omissions from IE10, and it will be another year or two before it will get them. Who knows how far ahead Chrome and Firefox will be by then.

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

#39

IE hate is well deserved. How many hundreds of thousands or millions of productive hours have been lost due to incompabilities, bugs, etc? That being said, Microsoft is full of talented people and they do create some fantastic products. IE is slowly getting to a more respectable point and hating on it so harshly seems juvenile.

For those who may have forgotten why IE deserves all the hate thrown its way:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Internet_Explorer

http://www.favbrowser.com/the-history-of-internet-explorer/

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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post #21

I actually kinda like the ad, because the guy could be me in a heartbeat, i even own the same keyboard xD. However the hate in me burns with the power of a thousand sons, when it comes to IE. The almost constant changes of MS standards with each new version of IE, inevitably breaks something, and will often require separate CSS styling.. And dont get me started on maintaining an app, that was built on IE6.. If I was…

"I would shoot the IE6 lead twice.." That's a little bit harsh, isn't it? While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released. However, as Microsoft decided to kill off development it soon grew too old for it's own good.

> While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released.

It wasn't exactly good either, IE5/Mac was better on many fronts, and released at least a year before.

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