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I'm a fairly young developer so managed to avoid the IE6 problems. Can you elaborate on which MS decisions you preferred over w3c?
The infamous IE box model is one thing where you could debate that one or the other was preferable.
Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]
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Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]
#32This ad isn't about the merits of IE as a browser, this ad is about building a preformed thought in the common users mind whenever they hear someone bash IE. IE hasn't been the victim of bad PR, it has earned it's reputation through years of blood/sweat/tears by the hands of developers. Microsoft recognizes that they won't be able to change this attitude in the developer community, but that they can lessen the weight…
(EDIT: MY opinion will say the same until that view counter says a million and I highly doubt it will even get close. The only people who really care anyway are the "trolls" that Microsoft is talking about!)
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#33Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]
#34This ad isn't about the merits of IE as a browser, this ad is about building a preformed thought in the common users mind whenever they hear someone bash IE. IE hasn't been the victim of bad PR, it has earned it's reputation through years of blood/sweat/tears by the hands of developers. Microsoft recognizes that they won't be able to change this attitude in the developer community, but that they can lessen the weight…
With all 300 views...I doubt it will change anything at all. (EDIT: MY opinion will say the same until that view counter says a million and I highly doubt it will even get close. The only people who really care anyway are the "trolls" that Microsoft is talking about!)
Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]
#35This ad isn't about the merits of IE as a browser, this ad is about building a preformed thought in the common users mind whenever they hear someone bash IE. IE hasn't been the victim of bad PR, it has earned it's reputation through years of blood/sweat/tears by the hands of developers. Microsoft recognizes that they won't be able to change this attitude in the developer community, but that they can lessen the weight…
With all 300 views...I doubt it will change anything at all. (EDIT: MY opinion will say the same until that view counter says a million and I highly doubt it will even get close. The only people who really care anyway are the "trolls" that Microsoft is talking about!)
In a matter of minutes or hours that number will suddenly increase significantly.
So it's an anti-spam measure. There's a short explainer here: http://www.seroundtable.com/youtube-301-views-15347.html
Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]
#36I actually kinda like the ad, because the guy could be me in a heartbeat, i even own the same keyboard xD. However the hate in me burns with the power of a thousand sons, when it comes to IE. The almost constant changes of MS standards with each new version of IE, inevitably breaks something, and will often require separate CSS styling.. And dont get me started on maintaining an app, that was built on IE6.. If I was…
At least give Microsoft credit: IE10 is a modern, standards-compliant browser. And, you know, IE6 was actually the best web browser out there for a long time.
Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]
#37http://cbateman.com/blog/whats-missing-in-internet-explorer-...
That's probably not even the full list of what's missing in IE10, as html5test puts IE10 way below the others in HTML5 features:
http://html5test.com/results/desktop.html
I wouldn't hold my breath for WebGL appearing even in IE11. Whatever Microsoft is saying, the "security" of WebGL is not the main reason why Microsoft is not the adopting it - not even close. Just like security is also not the main reason why Apple is not allowing other JS engines on iOS.
The security reason is used mainly as a "reasonable" excuse to cover for the real reason why they aren't implementing it (they obviously don't want OpenGL to gain anymore traction that it has already gained in mobile and Linux). If security would be an excuse to not implement something, we'd probably still be in the dark ages of the web. Consider Flash, it's one of the least secure pieces of software out there, and yet it's also what enabled video on the web for everyone. It's the reason Youtube exists today.
The lack of support for XP, which is still like 40% of the market, means Chrome is still by far the most secure browser on XP, which is something companies who aren't going to get new PC's and Windows licenses anytime soon should start considering.
No full screen API, no Web Audio API, and no WebRTC (and no Opus either) are also very regrettable omissions from IE10, and it will be another year or two before it will get them. Who knows how far ahead Chrome and Firefox will be by then.
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#38Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]
#39IE hate is well deserved. How many hundreds of thousands or millions of productive hours have been lost due to incompabilities, bugs, etc? That being said, Microsoft is full of talented people and they do create some fantastic products. IE is slowly getting to a more respectable point and hating on it so harshly seems juvenile.
Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]
#40I actually kinda like the ad, because the guy could be me in a heartbeat, i even own the same keyboard xD. However the hate in me burns with the power of a thousand sons, when it comes to IE. The almost constant changes of MS standards with each new version of IE, inevitably breaks something, and will often require separate CSS styling.. And dont get me started on maintaining an app, that was built on IE6.. If I was…
"I would shoot the IE6 lead twice.." That's a little bit harsh, isn't it? While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released. However, as Microsoft decided to kill off development it soon grew too old for it's own good.
It wasn't exactly good either, IE5/Mac was better on many fronts, and released at least a year before.