Brutal. I love it.
Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items
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Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items
#82Good grief, hopefully in v28 Lemay will also throw away the absolute crap that is Liquid glass. Aesthetically it looks horrible, it slows my iPhone 13 — which never before lagged in all its life since iOS 15 – to a maddening crawl. Liquid glass should be taught in design school as an example of what not to do when you design UX. And also in business school as a case of how middle management can fudge up something tha…
Did they not learn from windows aero? Or are they comprised of pure hubris that they thought they could make it work
Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items
#83For the HIG: Use menu item icons sparingly and with purpose. Icons allow people to find menu items more quickly, and help clarify what selecting an item does.
I'm not sure that's even OK. I find icons disruptive to reading the menu, but at least Apple still has text to read. Microsoft Word doesn't even have "Save" as text for saving your file, never mind that the icon isn't even in the file menu these days.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd guess no because in this case the whole system is the duck.
I'd think it's like, the whole Tahoe version had a lot to complain about, but enough people focused on the menu icons that they didn't focus on other things. Look how relieved they are the icons are gone!
There's a whole flock of aquatic poultry flapping about, but at least now it's duck-free! Too bad about the swan, goose, loon, egret, and heron though
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#85> I don’t know if all the untalented hacks are gone, but the untalented magazine-designer hacks with clout and influence all left with Alan Dye.
As usual for Gruber, this is fanboy cope. Dye may be a convenient scapegoat, but he was not a lone wolf, he was operating with the full assent of executive leadership, which is to say, the same leadership that appointed his successor.
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#86For those that haven’t seen this very well done write up about Tahoe’s use of icons, I would definitely recommend it: https://tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-icons/
Is pixel golf a thing? Apple definitely did it.
Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items
#87A good correction. But think about the months of work that has been wasted on creating those icon iterations. What a waste!
that's just sunk cost fallacy. The icons are also publicly available and can be used on projects conforming to the Apple branding, so it's not truly a waste. https://developer.apple.com/sf-symbols/
If anything, the waste would have arguably been putting people to work on a feature that needed to get removed in the first place. If there's any post-mortem to be done, it's "why did this get released in the first place, and how do we make sure we don't spent time on something like it again?"
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#88I didn’t upgrade to Tahoe after reading a couple of bad reviews. This time around though I may just do the upgrade. Nagging for system upgrade every time I plug my iphone is getting my nerves.
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#89I'm just sad that Intel MacBooks will be stuck with Tahoe, which is essentialy a botched beta for Golden Gate. Bad customer experience for a company like Apple.
Considering that Intel Macs will still be more than functional and provide a great user experience for many years afterwards even with Tahoe, not something that can be said for Win/PC machines, strikes me as being rather good customer support even if the breakpoint does seem like a bit of a short EOL. But I now plenty of people who bought Win machines and with the next update they basically turned into molasses, all…
Or install Linux for free and have a better OS than either.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was death by a thousand cuts. I am not a designer and Tahoe bothered me enough that, after trying it at work, I've been actively stopping my personal Mac to update, and it was a factor in moving to android.
Liquid Glass motivated me to sell my Mac. But also, Linux becoming genuinely amazing and being able to play all my PC games played a role there as well. I don’t find Android nearly as compelling, and Liquid Glass seems at least a bit less of a disaster on the iOS platform. My suggestion to you is follow the Panther Lake laptops that are coming out as your potential future Mac off-ramp. I have a Framework 13 Pro on pr…
Thanks for the suggestion! For the moment I'm dual booting, since the m1 MacBook is still a decent piece of hardware for my needs and asahi Linux offers good support.
Given the current market I intend to hold on as long as possible, but I'll probably be eyeing the Frameworks when it's time to change. Apple's change of direction makes me hopeful that they'll recover, but the current trends in tech have moved me away from corporate platforms a bit.