the real risk is using it at all as you are already sending them your data. If you are ok with that, then this retention/review seems ok.
Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos
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Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos
#32A startup that uses agentic coding tools such as Claude Code or Codex is packaging up their entire codebase and sending it directly to their LM provider. Depending on their product, they might be sending it directly to a potential competitor. Odd times we are living in!
people over-rate how much software/IP is useful in running a successful business. There are genuinely very few IP in this world that needs to be protected. Everyone else is running stupid CRUD apps They also over index fear of LargeCo stealing IP from SmallCo. In fact, LargeCo is typically more scared about even the possibility of any product team looking at competitor internals due to lawsuits.
Indeed, by a couple trillions...
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the same way that using Gmail and Dropbox and iCloud and Notion violates it. (Which IANAL but for most NDAs would be not at all.)
I never had an NDA permit such usage.
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#34It is actually worse than that. It is at least 30 days. There is an "almost" that is doing a ton of heavy lifting here "deletion after 30 days in almost all cases". My read of that is they can hang onto data for as long as they want, even if they usually won't. And "all traffic" with an agentic harness is basically your entire codebase you work on. > We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class mo…
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#35It is actually worse than that. It is at least 30 days. There is an "almost" that is doing a ton of heavy lifting here "deletion after 30 days in almost all cases". My read of that is they can hang onto data for as long as they want, even if they usually won't. And "all traffic" with an agentic harness is basically your entire codebase you work on. > We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class mo…
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#36the real risk is using it at all as you are already sending them your data. If you are ok with that, then this retention/review seems ok.
This is just a tragic moment for Tech. We just killed AI privacy. OpenAI already follows this trend and others will do too.
The only hope now is ... tada .. Mistral LOL
Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos
#37It is actually worse than that. It is at least 30 days. There is an "almost" that is doing a ton of heavy lifting here "deletion after 30 days in almost all cases". My read of that is they can hang onto data for as long as they want, even if they usually won't. And "all traffic" with an agentic harness is basically your entire codebase you work on. > We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class mo…
Even worse when you git push something Microsoft gets all your code!
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s exactly what my employer had communicated. It will not be allowed.
Step 1: Find all companies which refuses/bans to use SOTA models from irrational fear. Step 2: Use SOTA models to copy them and crush them Step 3: Profit. (Yes, not every business is easily replicable, but you sure can find some)
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Step 1: Find all companies which refuses/bans to use SOTA models from irrational fear. Step 2: Use SOTA models to copy them and crush them Step 3: Profit. (Yes, not every business is easily replicable, but you sure can find some)
Can you name a single example of a business that has been replaced by another business leveraging LLMs to copy and "crush" their software?
Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos
#40It is actually worse than that. It is at least 30 days. There is an "almost" that is doing a ton of heavy lifting here "deletion after 30 days in almost all cases". My read of that is they can hang onto data for as long as they want, even if they usually won't. And "all traffic" with an agentic harness is basically your entire codebase you work on. > We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class mo…
How were they not already auditing access to customer data?