Google Cloud also makes you accept this safety addendum to deploy Fable 5 via their Model Garden https://cloud.google.com/terms/advanced-ai-safety-addendum
Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos
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#12the real risk is using it at all as you are already sending them your data. If you are ok with that, then this retention/review seems ok.
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#13A startup that uses agentic coding tools such as Claude Code or Codex is packaging up their entire codebase and sending it directly to their LM provider. Depending on their product, they might be sending it directly to a potential competitor. Odd times we are living in!
people over-rate how much software/IP is useful in running a successful business. There are genuinely very few IP in this world that needs to be protected. Everyone else is running stupid CRUD apps
They also over index fear of LargeCo stealing IP from SmallCo. In fact, LargeCo is typically more scared about even the possibility of any product team looking at competitor internals due to lawsuits.
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#14A startup that uses agentic coding tools such as Claude Code or Codex is packaging up their entire codebase and sending it directly to their LM provider. Depending on their product, they might be sending it directly to a potential competitor. Odd times we are living in!
and all their keys, because sooner or later, the harness is gonna read them
One company's irrational fear is a competitive advantage for someone else.
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#15So if you are under an NDA, does this violate it? I guess the better question would be if you are under and NDA and using an online model, are you already violating it but does this violate it further?
In the same way that using Gmail and Dropbox and iCloud and Notion violates it. (Which IANAL but for most NDAs would be not at all.)
Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos
#16Then don’t use it.
That’s exactly what my employer had communicated. It will not be allowed.
Step 1: Find all companies which refuses/bans to use SOTA models from irrational fear.
Step 2: Use SOTA models to copy them and crush them
Step 3: Profit.
(Yes, not every business is easily replicable, but you sure can find some)
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#17A startup that uses agentic coding tools such as Claude Code or Codex is packaging up their entire codebase and sending it directly to their LM provider. Depending on their product, they might be sending it directly to a potential competitor. Odd times we are living in!
people over-rate how much software/IP is useful in running a successful business. There are genuinely very few IP in this world that needs to be protected. Everyone else is running stupid CRUD apps They also over index fear of LargeCo stealing IP from SmallCo. In fact, LargeCo is typically more scared about even the possibility of any product team looking at competitor internals due to lawsuits.
I’d be more scared of a data leak due to LargeCo being hacked than I would about LargeCo prying into the data.
What I don’t trust LargeCo with is personal information. I’ve heard too many horror stories about Govs and LargeCos swapping customer nudes or stalking ex’s to be comfortable with anything personal on those systems. But that’s a whole different topic.
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#20It is actually worse than that. It is at least 30 days. There is an "almost" that is doing a ton of heavy lifting here "deletion after 30 days in almost all cases". My read of that is they can hang onto data for as long as they want, even if they usually won't. And "all traffic" with an agentic harness is basically your entire codebase you work on. > We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class mo…
How were they not already auditing access to customer data?