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Mercedes‑Benz starts large‑scale production of electric axial flux motor

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Re: Mercedes‑Benz starts large‑scale production of electric axial flux motor

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Mercedes acquired Yasa (UK) couple of years ago and now getting up to the speed in the production. Here is a nice video that explains axial flux motors with a factory visit https://youtu.be/B2Hl4c1iZK0?si=VfDYARyuaPVj1nKm They are so, so, small.

Came here for this, thank you for providing a link

Edit.... Video doesn't seem to explain very well either

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#94

Tangential, how much regen can this system support? For example, can a car with 200kW propulsion have a 400kW regen (Tesla has upto 65) and are cost effective like friction brakes?

> can a car with 200kW propulsion have a 400kW regen At the motor level it should be the same, in propulsion you’re converting current to torque and in regen you’re converting torque to current, with the same hardware. The high voltage wiring is the same and will set the same limit on current regardless of direction. I believe bidirectional inverters are generally symmetrical as well, so that should not be a factor.…

How far fetched is the idea to use Super-Capacitors to take up the energy generated by braking and then slowly feeding it to the battery at a rate that it supports?

Re: Mercedes‑Benz starts large‑scale production of electric axial flux motor

#95
This video explained to me what an axial flux motor is and how it's different to radial flux.

Amazing what materials science achieving to get this sort of power as well as the engineering and manufacturing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCO633KE7RA

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#96

10 years behind Tesla, they are doomed

... Eh? No. No current large-scale production car uses axial flux motors. You're talking concept cars, plus a few oddities like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_Artura

Re: Mercedes‑Benz starts large‑scale production of electric axial flux motor

#97

Mercedes acquired Yasa (UK) couple of years ago and now getting up to the speed in the production. Here is a nice video that explains axial flux motors with a factory visit https://youtu.be/B2Hl4c1iZK0?si=VfDYARyuaPVj1nKm They are so, so, small.

I wonder how developing electric motors compares to combustion engines. My hunch says that it’s the main reason the Chinese high-tech electronics industry was able to develop and iterate leading electric vehicles so fast. (Edit: My more clarified point is regarding the machinery required + place to accommodate them to work on electric motors vs. ICE metal parts and all the intermediary parts transfering power in the drivetrain. The shop in the video is smaller than many would imagine.)

When these hopefully go to the next generation Formula E cars, we’ll see some crazy improvements in cornering. The newest generation already has active 4WD. I imagine this can bring even better torque adjustment improvements.

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#98

Ah, another fantastic British innovator (YASA) having to realize its potential (and ultimately the downstream economic benefits of commercialisation) abroad. Brought to you by the only country to have a space programme and abandon it.

> Brought to you by the only country to have a space programme and abandon it.

I mean, so did France; they both essentially folded theirs into ESA.

Re: Mercedes‑Benz starts large‑scale production of electric axial flux motor

#99

Mercedes acquired Yasa (UK) couple of years ago and now getting up to the speed in the production. Here is a nice video that explains axial flux motors with a factory visit https://youtu.be/B2Hl4c1iZK0?si=VfDYARyuaPVj1nKm They are so, so, small.

I was curious how this thing works and asked Claude to visualize it -- mostly to see how good Fable is and I have to say, what it made was good enough for me to get a gist of it. Posted it here

https://azimi.me/axial-flux-motor-explainer/

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Mercedes acquired Yasa (UK) couple of years ago and now getting up to the speed in the production. Here is a nice video that explains axial flux motors with a factory visit https://youtu.be/B2Hl4c1iZK0?si=VfDYARyuaPVj1nKm They are so, so, small.

I was curious how this thing works and asked Claude to visualize it -- mostly to see how good Fable is and I have to say, what it made was good enough for me to get a gist of it. Posted it here https://azimi.me/axial-flux-motor-explainer/

Tbh it did a pretty good job
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