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Mercedes‑Benz starts large‑scale production of electric axial flux motor

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Re: Mercedes‑Benz starts large‑scale production of electric axial flux motor

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Post by chrisweekly »

manarth wrote: post #30
creativeSlumber wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The three axial flux motors are integrated per axle I wonder why they need tree motors per axle.

The translation's a little woolly. For the AMG GT4 there will be 3 motors: two at the rear, and one at the front. My interpretation (and my German's pretty lousy) is that each motor is combined with a gear system in a single package, and they're calling the overall package (motor plus gears) a High Performance Electric Drive Unit (HP.EDU). The two rear motors will probably be independent, so no need for a mechanical…

In terms of traction control, does this translate to something between "4WD" and "AWD"? Or is it orthogonal?

Re: Mercedes‑Benz starts large‑scale production of electric axial flux motor

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Post by boringg »

bluebarbet wrote: post #82

For a century Germany's comparative advantage has been [mechanical] engineering. As a European I want (need?) Germany to succeed. Ergo: more of this, please.

Their advantage was mechanical engineering. They have historically not done well with electrical systems. So this is a change - hopefully for the better.

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Post by throwaway132448 »

fancyfredbot wrote: post #76
throwaway132448 wrote: post #3

Ah, another fantastic British innovator (YASA) having to realize its potential (and ultimately the downstream economic benefits of commercialisation) abroad. Brought to you by the only country to have a space programme and abandon it.

Britain didn't abandon it's space programme. It abandoned a launch rocket programme though. That was over 50 years ago and the rocket was less capable and more expensive than alternatives at the time.

What alternatives? By your logic only one country should have a launch rocket. Thankfully that’s not a world we live in because that makes no sense. But I’m happy for you if you can be content with a space programme without a rocket, that’s a nice low bar to live with, you can basically never miss.

Re: Mercedes‑Benz starts large‑scale production of electric axial flux motor

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Post by Sharlin »

arethuza wrote: post #47
nelox wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want a V12 or V16, thank you very much.

I'd like a 600 HP 1.5l supercharged V16 - doesn't even need to be in a car, mainly just to listen to! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Racing_Motors_V16

If the displacement isn’t measured in cubic meters, can you even call it an engine?

Re: Mercedes‑Benz starts large‑scale production of electric axial flux motor

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Post by miohtama »

Mercedes acquired Yasa (UK) couple of years ago and now getting up to the speed in the production.

Here is a nice video that explains axial flux motors with a factory visit

https://youtu.be/B2Hl4c1iZK0?si=VfDYARyuaPVj1nKm

They are so, so, small.

Re: Mercedes‑Benz starts large‑scale production of electric axial flux motor

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Post by acomjean »

nelox wrote: post #39
geremiiah wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's basically the V8 of electric motors. Different topology results in better power to weight ratio. From the outside they look pancake shaped.

I want a V12 or V16, thank you very much.

V5?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR5_engine

We owned an vw inline 5 Passat (quantum in North America). Good engine and synchro awd.

Re: Mercedes‑Benz starts large‑scale production of electric axial flux motor

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Post by deadeye »

DonsDiscountGas wrote: post #80

Only slightly related but does anyone know anything about motors with magnetic bearings? As in, no contact or friction. I'm looking for a hardware project

I wonder if that is even possible since the whole point of the motor is an imbalance of magnetic forces.
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