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Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
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Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because Mozilla, at least from the outside appears to have been horribly mismanaged for the past 20-25 years and only survived because the ad money kept rolling in. I'm not knocking Mozilla for taking money from Google, it was a smart move. Most users would use Google anyway, so Mozilla pocketing billions by making users preferred search engine the default didn't really hurt anyone. Some of that money should however…
> the ad money kept rolling in Why "ad money"? That's a very uncharitable interpretation and for anyone not aware of the situation it's misleading. They're not paid for ads or by ads, they're paid by Google to continue being a viable alternative to Chrome. Is every Google employee getting "ad money" every month, or a salary? The payment is more accurately described as a protection tax.
In this particular context there really isn't any difference. Technically Mozilla isn't in the business of delivering ads, but their revenue is mostly supported by ad money from Google, and Google, being an ad giant, can simply cut that stream off. The common sentiment seems to be that this would spell a life and death situation for the company and for the browser as a whole, which essentially makes Firefox a hostage to the whims of an ideologically hostile corporate entity.
Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
They can only support MV2 extensions as long as Google continues to maintain them. Their tech stack is heavily JavaScript-focused, as their entire UI is written in JavaScript.
How is it half of HN is convinced Firefox can compete with Chrome in its entirety and the other half is convinced nobody can possibly maintain a single additional API version on Chromium?
It's about the tech stack, IMO. Chromium is a moving target to maintain compatibility with, which is difficult for a team that doesn't have much C++ experience.
As a counter example, Brave is heavily invested in C++ and Rust, and I believe they could handle that work much better.
Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
#134Surprised they still have this page on their site: > https://about.google/company-info/philosophy/ > 1. Focus on the user and all else will follow. > 6. You can make money without doing evil.
Hah > 6. You can make money without doing evil implies that they're doing it for fun then I guess?
Technically, you can make money without doing evil.
Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
#135Surprised they still have this page on their site: > https://about.google/company-info/philosophy/ > 1. Focus on the user and all else will follow. > 6. You can make money without doing evil.
Hah > 6. You can make money without doing evil implies that they're doing it for fun then I guess?
you make some money without doing evil and some more in other ways
Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
#136Just about obligatory mention of Pale Moon here. Have had a relatively clean internet experience for years with the old Firefox uBlock extension in combination with eMatrix. *Includes a disclaimer because I don't use Youtube and other assorted "social" media websites.
Only need Firefox ESR for a handful of websites giving me no option when specifying a Linux/Mozilla user agent instead of the native one for those doesn't work.
Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because Mozilla, at least from the outside appears to have been horribly mismanaged for the past 20-25 years and only survived because the ad money kept rolling in. I'm not knocking Mozilla for taking money from Google, it was a smart move. Most users would use Google anyway, so Mozilla pocketing billions by making users preferred search engine the default didn't really hurt anyone. Some of that money should however…
> the ad money kept rolling in Why "ad money"? That's a very uncharitable interpretation and for anyone not aware of the situation it's misleading. They're not paid for ads or by ads, they're paid by Google to continue being a viable alternative to Chrome. Is every Google employee getting "ad money" every month, or a salary? The payment is more accurately described as a protection tax.
While the nuance is important, money from Google is ad money:
- Directing people to Google Search means Firefox users get exposed to ads
- The money given to Firefox was made selling ads
- Google is an ad company
Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
#138Moved to Firefox.
Thank you Firefox.
Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
#139Why are people on HN still using Chrome? (or Edge, or Opera…)
There are 2 reasons why I'm using chromium (with ublock origin lite) over Firefox: 1. Chromium is significantly faster (maybe 5 to 10x faster on certain tasks mostly around canvas but anything that requires fast ui really). Every time I use Firefox it feels like it has some kind of serious problem. If chrome was this slow I would stop working and start investigating what part of my computer is broken. This experience…
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Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
For me the two reasons I can't live without are 1. Firefox's ctrl-f search doesn't highlight all instances of a found item on the right hand side. It sounds petty, but its a gigantic timesaver for looking through research documents 2. Firefox's tab crash recovery isn't as solid. I use chrome with fully persistent tabs, and its a gigantic pain if I can't re-open them If I could find a way to fix these I'd swap in a he…
Firefox has added highlighting of search terms in the page's scroll bar quite a few versions ago, if you want to give it another spin for that.
Weird, it still only highlights a single occurrence for me if I ctrl-f something, is there a setting for this or something?