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Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#112

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Let's not exchange crap behaviour. I think google would win hands down. Firefox at least has adblocking.

The classic 'those guys did something bad, so I am going to go with the guys who are absolute assholes doing several orders of magnitude more bad things now instead' response. That usually means that whoever utters it was just looking for a sycophantic excuse to go with the bigger threat because it is more convenient to them (for now).

It's remarkable how often this happens, isn't it? One incident of someone not living up to standards is suddenly an opportunity to abandon standards and go with known bad actors. It's like people giving up on the MSM and immediately latching onto propaganda Youtubers instead.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Why are people on HN still using Chrome? (or Edge, or Opera…)

I'm a Firefox user for about 20yrs (since Firefox 3); but too often I have to use Chrome, as so many sites only work properly on it; Firefox is really buggy or laggy on those websites; For a time, all those AI chat web pages were just very slow on Firefox even with very little context, whereas Chrome only gets laggy when there is a lot of context.

only site that was slow on firefox was google meet, but then it turned out someone documented how google had code to explicitly do that. ouch.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#114

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Firefox haven't caved in so far. Why do u think it might in future?

Because Mozilla, at least from the outside appears to have been horribly mismanaged for the past 20-25 years and only survived because the ad money kept rolling in. I'm not knocking Mozilla for taking money from Google, it was a smart move. Most users would use Google anyway, so Mozilla pocketing billions by making users preferred search engine the default didn't really hurt anyone. Some of that money should however…

> the ad money kept rolling in

Why "ad money"? That's a very uncharitable interpretation and for anyone not aware of the situation it's misleading. They're not paid for ads or by ads, they're paid by Google to continue being a viable alternative to Chrome. Is every Google employee getting "ad money" every month, or a salary?

The payment is more accurately described as a protection tax.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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post #82

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I think Google will try to annoy Firefox users into using Chrome instead via things like needless captchas.

All the more reason to keep using Firefox. Donate if you can! https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/donate/

Last I heard was that there is no way to be sure that donations to the Mozilla Foundation go to Firefox.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#116
post #82

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I think Google will try to annoy Firefox users into using Chrome instead via things like needless captchas.

All the more reason to keep using Firefox. Donate if you can! https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/donate/

Donations to Mozilla Foundation do not support Firefox development. But payments for services to Mozilla Corporation do.[1]

[1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#118
post #26

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The few exceptions being the ones we want. So.. a good outcome.

We want forks or better extensions impossible?

If they were willing to make exceptions then I would hope the list isn't closed. I view this as the best of the possible worlds not the best of all imaginable worlds.

Perhaps good was overkill. Less bad?

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#119
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I wonder what will Vivaldi do. They say that their built-in content blocker is "good enough" that you supposedly don't need uBO (I very much disagree) but they also keep MV2 extensions working to this day.

They can only support MV2 extensions as long as Google continues to maintain them.

Their tech stack is heavily JavaScript-focused, as their entire UI is written in JavaScript.

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