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Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by ttul »

WorkerBee28474 wrote: post #158
ttul wrote: post #76

There is actually a sensible way to do recruit foreign workers to fill jobs that locals for some reason can't fill, and it's just a few miles up north... Canada's Temporary Foreign Worker Program (TFWP) is not limited by annual caps or lotteries. You just apply (as a company) by filling in a few simple forms and posting a job in the "Canada Job Bank" for a period of time to demonstrate that you genuinely searched for…

Canada's Temporary Foreign Worker Program is a horrible program that has been flagrantly abused for years to the detriment of Canadians. There's record high youth unemployment yet every Tim Hortons is filled with Indians.

I'm not sure whether you're aware of how racist this comment may sound to many readers here on HN, but you're definitely echoing the sentiment of many Canadians who sense that "foreigners" are taking away their jobs - a concept that has been leveraged by conservative politicians to stoke distaste for the current government. There is indeed a lack of youth employment in Canada, and the TFWP may be somewhat to blame for that. But labelling it as a problem with regard to a single group of immigrants strikes me as unhelpful.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by ttul »

bendangelo wrote: post #214
WorkerBee28474 wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada's Temporary Foreign Worker Program is a horrible program that has been flagrantly abused for years to the detriment of Canadians. There's record high youth unemployment yet every Tim Hortons is filled with Indians.

Yes, you'll be hard pressed to find any Canadians at any fast food restaurants now. It's a common scam to pay a Tim Hortons owner 20-30k and he'll make you a manager at the franchise, then he'll give you a shared room where you pay monthly to live there. Then you work for free. The UN literaly wrote how Canada has created a neo-slavery system.

Is there any evidence that this actually takes place in a consistent, widespread manner?

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by mindslight »

losvedir wrote: post #102
apt-apt-apt-apt wrote: post #82

Misleading title, implies national but only for one state

No, the article has an Alaska focus because it's some Alaskan news agency, but I believe it's a nation-wide block. The judge in question is based in Massachusetts. Side note, but I'm sort of surprised that this "level" of judge (I think there's almost 700 of them in the country) is able to block these orders. It seems like almost no executive order is possible if you need a unanimous agreement of 700 people.

> It seems like almost no executive order is possible if you need a unanimous agreement of 700 people.

No "executive order" of the type commonly thrown around these days, sure. It's quite easy for "700 people" to agree on settled law when those people are federal court judges. Where the law is not settled, the President should not be making up dictatorial "executive orders" that are intended to be applied with the force of settled law. Legal ambiguity bears a cost, and that cost should fall onto the government itself rather than people being illegally harmed.

With the political mandate for immigration reform, all of these things could have been straightforwardly accomplished through the appropriate avenue of Congress - in fact there already was a bipartisan immigration bill well on its way which was killed! The sensible way to see these brash unilateral executive dictats are for the purpose of creating a mere appearance of addressing the problems, while ultimately just setting the stage for deliberate failure.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by tencentshill »

xbar wrote: post #249

H1B is a terrible and maximally abused program in its current form. Adding a $100k fee (which I expect eventually to be found to be not-a-tax and therefore legal) is not a fix, it is merely a revenue stream. It needs a couple things: 1. Break current gamification of lottery winners. Probably by requiring a greater diversity in country-of-origin of H1B visas granted annually. Probably involves some kind of % or per co…

ctrl+f "diversity" - DOGE has automatically rejected your petition.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by spwa4 »

triceratops wrote: post #332
spwa4 wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends what you mean. Communism loves bureaucracy and so there are 10 different system "totally not cooperating" to prevent leaving. In China you need permission to leave the country (or even your town), and so there is no law change. The big bureaucracies are referred to as "Hokou" (within China) and "Exit-entry administration" for international. So no direct announcement, everything is under direct control of Xi.…

Yeah sorry no that's not the same thing as "made emigration illegal". When you say that I think of Soviet Russia with its exit visas that people hardly ever got.

It kind of is. You try to leave, the police stops you. You go to court, the court decides against you. What's not "lawful" about that (aside from the very unjust nature of China's laws)

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by cogman10 »

JCTheDenthog wrote: post #17
variety8675 wrote: post #11

There must be a better way to prevent the consulting firms from abusing this program

Rigorous examinations for English fluency and for competency in their alleged field of expertise would be a good start. I have several H1B coworkers in the US who barely speak intelligible English, and who barely understand normal conversation let alone anything technical. A blatant example of this that I experienced recently being that several of them could not understand that just because a method in C# is asynchro…

No, that's a silly test. If I want to bring in a world renown battery expert from China, it's ridiculous to also add on "and you must speak English well". English fluency has absolutely nothing to do with expertise.

What we actually need is a higher minimum salary for H1B employees. Right now it's something like 50k per year, which is insanely low for a "hard to find expert" it should be more like $300k per year. H1B employees should be some of the best paid employees in a company. Raise that minimum salary and you'll overnight fix almost all complaints with the H1B program. Except for from the business owners who are abusing the system to get cheap labor.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by rtgfhyuj »

WorkerBee28474 wrote: post #158
ttul wrote: post #76

There is actually a sensible way to do recruit foreign workers to fill jobs that locals for some reason can't fill, and it's just a few miles up north... Canada's Temporary Foreign Worker Program (TFWP) is not limited by annual caps or lotteries. You just apply (as a company) by filling in a few simple forms and posting a job in the "Canada Job Bank" for a period of time to demonstrate that you genuinely searched for…

Canada's Temporary Foreign Worker Program is a horrible program that has been flagrantly abused for years to the detriment of Canadians. There's record high youth unemployment yet every Tim Hortons is filled with Indians.

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Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by rtgfhyuj »

JCTheDenthog wrote: post #17
variety8675 wrote: post #11

There must be a better way to prevent the consulting firms from abusing this program

Rigorous examinations for English fluency and for competency in their alleged field of expertise would be a good start. I have several H1B coworkers in the US who barely speak intelligible English, and who barely understand normal conversation let alone anything technical. A blatant example of this that I experienced recently being that several of them could not understand that just because a method in C# is asynchro…

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Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by yen223 »

cdddgdbbd wrote: post #318
yen223 wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with Indians? Why do so many people here want us to hate on Indians?

There’s nothing wrong with Indians. Indian immigrants I’ve worked with professionally have been great. There’s something massively wrong with bringing over tons of cheap labour, who are themselves constantly exploited and abused due to their precarious arrangement, creating a situation where they have no reason to care about the society or culture they’re moving into, because it obviously doesn’t care about them. The…

Indians are victims, and in order to protect them we must deny them the ability to move and work?

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by triceratops »

spwa4 wrote: post #345
triceratops wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah sorry no that's not the same thing as "made emigration illegal". When you say that I think of Soviet Russia with its exit visas that people hardly ever got.

It kind of is. You try to leave, the police stops you. You go to court, the court decides against you. What's not "lawful" about that (aside from the very unjust nature of China's laws)

For it to be true there would have to be evidence that it's default disallowed. Or that most people can't get passports at all, no matter what.
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