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Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by handle584 »

ericmay wrote: post #61
bitmasher9 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think forcing this comparison shows a lack of empathy for how compromised of a position the H1B really is. If I lose my job I have unemployment insurance, cobra benefits, personal savings, and I don’t require another employer to sponsor my visa. If I lose my job the most likely outcome is I find another one after searching a few months. If someone on an H1B visa loses their job the most likely outcome is they are f…

Well, truthfully I don't really care all that much about it any more than I do any other problems that people generally experience. It's even more tragic that someone has an H1B means other folks don't - aren't their lives even worse for not having the opportunity that someone else does? Can the H1B visa holder even compete with the person denied the H1B? The reason I wrote this comment is because the OP itself decid…

I mean worst come to worst you can drive Uber full time until the market recovers? And this is certainly not an option for H1B.

Unless Americans does not want this type of job, which actually validates your cynical interpretation of OP's comment. Meanwhile a lot of illegal immigrants are happily driving for Uber and plenty more will be if they can do it legally.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by JCTheDenthog »

fg137 wrote: post #302
JCTheDenthog wrote: post #17

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Rigorous examinations for English fluency and for competency in their alleged field of expertise would be a good start. I have several H1B coworkers in the US who barely speak intelligible English, and who barely understand normal conversation let alone anything technical. A blatant example of this that I experienced recently being that several of them could not understand that just because a method in C# is asynchro…

> could not understand that just because a method in C# is asynchronous does not mean it executes out of order. Want to bet how many naturally born US citizens in your colleagues can answer the question in a technical interview?

I'm not expecting them to know it ahead of time, I'm expecting them to understand it when it is explained to them.

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Post by watwut »

bijowo1676 wrote: post #290
fc417fc802 wrote: post #288

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That's highly deceptive. To start with, salaries have to increase just to tread water given inflation. Beyond that, there's nothing wrong with a position that produces a large amount of value being compensated in accordance. If a particular sector does well we should expect salaries to rise relative to the economy as a whole. The question is simply whether a policy would depress wages relative to not having that poli…

you know what would depress wages even more? not having H1B foreigners like Elon Musk or Satya Nadella create/grow companies that employed tens of thousands Americans and created trillions of value for investors. Remember it was White American Steven Ballmer who almost ruined Microsoft (he took MSFT at $620 bln and left at $280 bln valuation), and it took a foreigner like Satya to bring it to $4 trillion. not having…

Elon Musk is causing way more harm then benefit to America itself and its economy. I dont think he is a good example of a positive effect of immigration.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by snozolli »

Starman_Jones wrote: post #251
janalsncm wrote: post #91

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Is there an excess of teachers in Alaska? I can understand why rural schools would need H1Bs. They would probably need to pay a premium to attract teachers from out of state, not to mention Alaska. And rural schools are the least able to actually do that. Maybe if the current admin really wants to keep the $100k fee, they can extend an olive branch by either waiving the fee or helping to fund American teachers to mov…

My sister was a schoolteacher in Alaska. They pay a premium, but it’s still not a life that most Americans are cut out for, including me. That means the schools have to choose between giving these kids subpar teachers who are happy to live up there, or miserable teachers who are only doing it for the money. Or, we can hire foreign teachers who are qualified AND are happy to teach up there.

the schools have to choose between giving these kids subpar teachers who are happy to live up there, or miserable teachers who are only doing it for the money.

1) Why is that the dichotomy?

2) Do you say the same thing about well-paid oilfield workers living in RVs, away from their families and social networks?

3) Do you think the foreign workers are happy to be in Alaska for the sake of the Alaskan experience?

For some reason, people are convinced that teacher salaries have to be suppressed, lest the "wrong people" take the jobs. As if stressing about making rent is a critical signal of virtue, exclusively for teaching.

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Post by duxup »

cgag wrote: post #299
jsemrau wrote: post #236

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> there was no qualified American applicants I have been hiring for 20 years and find this increasingly impossible to believe. Please expand why that would be the case.

Every post I see from young people trying to get tech jobs is about applying to 500 places to get one interview. It’s a lie.

That quote isn’t about a tech job.

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Post by AngryData »

bluegatty wrote: post #221
AngryData wrote: post #210

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This would hold more weight if teachers in rural areas weren't getting paid less than half your thought experiment average.

Your little comment would have more weight it had any factual substance. Average teachers salary in US is 75K and it's over 100K in California. [1] https://www.nea.org/nea.org/nea-today/all-news-articles/teac...

Averages can be deceiving when you have large outliers boosting it. A median would be more enlightening. Also California is one of the most expensive states in the US and the average starting pay for California teachers is 58k. And for that be the average there are people making significantly less than that which means many are making barely above the California minimum wage.

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Post by ericmay »

handle584 wrote: post #321
ericmay wrote: post #61

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Well, truthfully I don't really care all that much about it any more than I do any other problems that people generally experience. It's even more tragic that someone has an H1B means other folks don't - aren't their lives even worse for not having the opportunity that someone else does? Can the H1B visa holder even compete with the person denied the H1B? The reason I wrote this comment is because the OP itself decid…

I mean worst come to worst you can drive Uber full time until the market recovers? And this is certainly not an option for H1B. Unless Americans does not want this type of job, which actually validates your cynical interpretation of OP's comment. Meanwhile a lot of illegal immigrants are happily driving for Uber and plenty more will be if they can do it legally.

> I mean worst come to worst you can drive Uber full time until the market recovers? And this is certainly not an option for H1B.

Why can't the H1B visa holder also just be deported and drive for Uber in their home country full-time until the market recovers?

> Meanwhile a lot of illegal immigrants are happily driving for Uber and plenty more will be if they can do it legally.

As a capitalist I'm all in favor of driving wages for workers to as close to 0 as possible. If Uber is $1 for me instead of $15 that's great. I don't think our unions or blue-collar workforce are in favor of that though.

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Post by ToxicMegacolon »

yen223 wrote: post #300
WorkerBee28474 wrote: post #158

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Canada's Temporary Foreign Worker Program is a horrible program that has been flagrantly abused for years to the detriment of Canadians. There's record high youth unemployment yet every Tim Hortons is filled with Indians.

What's wrong with Indians? Why do so many people here want us to hate on Indians?

It has become a norm on the internet. Even calling it out is usually met with downvotes, name-calling, and more hateful replies.

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Post by BobaFloutist »

Starman_Jones wrote: post #251
janalsncm wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there an excess of teachers in Alaska? I can understand why rural schools would need H1Bs. They would probably need to pay a premium to attract teachers from out of state, not to mention Alaska. And rural schools are the least able to actually do that. Maybe if the current admin really wants to keep the $100k fee, they can extend an olive branch by either waiving the fee or helping to fund American teachers to mov…

My sister was a schoolteacher in Alaska. They pay a premium, but it’s still not a life that most Americans are cut out for, including me. That means the schools have to choose between giving these kids subpar teachers who are happy to live up there, or miserable teachers who are only doing it for the money. Or, we can hire foreign teachers who are qualified AND are happy to teach up there.

Same issue as rural doctors, to be honest. It's hard to pay an American with a medical degree enough to live and work in that environment, so if we want to keep rural hospitals (and independent practices) staffed, we need to allow immigrants to do the work.

The alternative isn't that rural communities get doctors born in the US, it's that they get no doctors.

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Post by spwa4 »

triceratops wrote: post #316
spwa4 wrote: post #306

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You could also say that India is below replacement fertility. Which, if Indian history is anything to go by, will mean India will outlaw emigration to protect ultra-rich Indians. China has already mostly made emigration illegal. The rest of the world will follow.

> China has already mostly made emigration illegal Genuinely news to me. Do you have any sources?

Depends what you mean. Communism loves bureaucracy and so there are 10 different system "totally not cooperating" to prevent leaving. In China you need permission to leave the country (or even your town), and so there is no law change. The big bureaucracies are referred to as "Hokou" (within China) and "Exit-entry administration" for international. So no direct announcement, everything is under direct control of Xi. You see, it was always illegal to go outside of the country without Xi's approval and those approvals have mostly stopped coming.

But here's one source: https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/02/18/china-right-leave-countr...

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