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Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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yeah, I've done keto very strictly for about a year, it solved a major problem in my respiratory system that I had for like.. all of my life Today I have introduced many carbs back, like sweet potato, cassava, white rice, and fruits etc.. even some orange/grape juice. I just try to stay away from ultra processed foods and occasionally do some fasting. About our ancestors, I mean... I think it would depend on where in…

Without engaging with the rest of your content, I have to point out that Wikipedia's "list of countries by cancer rates" is not actually a useful metric for the true rates of cancer in those countries. Poorer countries tend to have worse medical surveillance and likely undercount. People also die earlier of "other" things than cancer as well. I understand the desire to make a coherent narrative that fits your beliefs…

that was just a quick example. I agree there are tons of noise.

but the biochemistry doesn't change, you just need to see the human system as... a system, like any other system. Yes it will vary depending on genetics, environment and so on, but the base model is still the same.

the system inputs: constant glucose spikes require constant insulin, which drives inflammation and shuts down autophagy, which is bad for cellular and specially mitochondrial repair. what's the output?

also, I don't think it's necessary to mention but... this is not the sole root cause for all cancers in all of history. this is not the "cure". it is not the holy grail... but ask yourself.. what lifestyle are young people having today?

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Cost and the statistical property that older people have fewer sexual partners on average. There's also a sort of fatalist assumption that you've already been maximally exposed. If the vaccine was zero cost, you'd give it to everyone.

How do you define cost here? The medical cost of the vaccine and nurse time? Or the risk to health? I'd pay for it out-of-pocket, even as an old. But I wouldn't know where.

The cost of the vaccine and nurse time, yes.

If you want to pay for it out of pocket, you totally can. Just ask your PCP.

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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It's mostly obesity, which the article sort of mentions ("known links to obesity") but kind of obscures by saying "obesity does not fully account for the rise" and "a clear answer remained elusive." The medical establishment and journalism have found it extremely uncomfortable over the past decade to notice that obesity has negative health consequences because it might embarrass some fat people, and this is more of t…

I don't think the medical establishment is covering it up; if they could sell Ozempic as preventing cancer they'd jump at the idea.

The medical establishment isn't covering it up; they're just embarrassed to say it out loud, directly. Instead they talk around it. GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic may well get to a point where they can be marketed as cancer preventing.

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Unsurprisingly little mention of some experimental gene therapy rolled out 5 years ago. I guess we still don't talk about it or think it's all s&e.

Which therapies do you have in mind and where can I find more information?

I have cancer, I'll take anything that has at least preliminary trails...

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Peak hackernews behaviour denying pollution from AI datacenters

It's more like... the comment doesn't contribute anything of value to the conversation.

Or I'm a young person with lots of cancer cases "near me" and I'm worried that we're moving in very undesirable directions and everyone clapping their hands

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Unsurprisingly little mention of some experimental gene therapy rolled out 5 years ago. I guess we still don't talk about it or think it's all s&e.

You mean the experiment that has been literally studied to death showing no substantial difference than most other vaccination methods that gets conveniently trotted out as an excuse of all the world's evils by pseudoscience grifters?

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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I believe the single common caiae of increase for all types of cancer is immunosuppression. Immune system might clear a cancer cell that would otherwise evolve to fulminant disease, every few days. A slight immunosuppression might explain a astonishing increase. All the environmental factors referred are candidates for that but the most important is chronic psychological stress, which is rampant in modern adults and…

Immunosuppresion is not a global epidemic. If anything it is the complete opposite; an excess of inflammation, which is directly correlated with all-cause mortality, organ failure and heart disease.
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