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Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Post by DANmode »

arthopacini wrote: post #188
DANmode wrote: post #89

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Yes. Also: Look at where the “fat” is being stored. Realize it’s not all “fat” from calories - it’s inflammation, and toxin diversion. Fat doesn’t get stored in your eyebrows in front of your sinus, that’s swelling from eating what the body sees as toxic, and often breathing poison indoors.

that makes total sense! it can get in a state where the body really need to freaking store the fat somewhere else and/or even the toxins because it is unable to get rid of it...

What goes in has to go somewhere.

We think we can always break down, or excrete, 100% of what we ingest, inhale.

We are wrong.

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Post by dekhn »

arthopacini wrote: post #185
testbjjl wrote: post #94

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I agree with a lot here and practice keto throughout the year and occasionally break to eat burritos, rice, pasta and drink beer because I enjoy them. But our ancestors were not in constant ketosis. They ate substantial carbohydrates in the food they consumed seasonally, though not as much as we consume today because of our tech. Also, doesn’t ice reduce blood flow? Lastly Ramadan and cancer rates are not supported.…

yeah, I've done keto very strictly for about a year, it solved a major problem in my respiratory system that I had for like.. all of my life Today I have introduced many carbs back, like sweet potato, cassava, white rice, and fruits etc.. even some orange/grape juice. I just try to stay away from ultra processed foods and occasionally do some fasting. About our ancestors, I mean... I think it would depend on where in…

Without engaging with the rest of your content, I have to point out that Wikipedia's "list of countries by cancer rates" is not actually a useful metric for the true rates of cancer in those countries. Poorer countries tend to have worse medical surveillance and likely undercount. People also die earlier of "other" things than cancer as well.

I understand the desire to make a coherent narrative that fits your beliefs but please recognize the limits in our ability to make causal statements about the causes of cancer.

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Post by dekhn »

witx wrote: post #111
witx wrote: post #38

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Yes, one good data point is pollution, which all these companies are prollific at.

Peak hackernews behaviour denying pollution from AI datacenters

It's more like... the comment doesn't contribute anything of value to the conversation.

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Post by phainopepla2 »

pluralmonad wrote: post #146
seszett wrote: post #72

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> The medical establishment and journalism have found it extremely uncomfortable over the past decade to notice that obesity has negative health consequences because it might embarrass some fat people, and this is more of that. I can't help but think about the same thing with "co-sleeping". It's been discouraged altogether on the basis that it increases the incidence of sudden death syndrome in newborns, which sounds…

Went down this rabbit hole about "back is best" recommendation for babies. Turns out back is only best for the vanishingly tiny subset of infants prone to SIDS. And appreciably worse for everyone else. "Public health" means something different to bureaucrats.

Where can I read more about this? I've been pilled on the co-sleeping thing, but hadn't heard this about "back is best"

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Post by phainopepla2 »

procaryote wrote: post #108
gopalv wrote: post #11

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My personal bugbear is the lack of sleep & entirely tied to the phone for that. I remember being in my 20s and not being able to sleep, but the most distracting thing I could reach for was a pile of books in my bedside table. Now, I can't sleep, there's an endless stream of things to keep me awake. The jokes about "5G gives you cancer" is probably not as funny, if you think about the sleep you miss while you doom scr…

As you know this, why don't you fix it? What is forcing you to doom scroll rather than putting the phone in a different room before going do bed?

What's forcing people to keep eating terrible diets and getting fat? What's forcing that results in . The answer is usually human weakness or someone seeking to make a profit by encouraging the bad habit, or a combination of the two.

As individuals, there's nothing we can do other than exert willpower, and we should. But as a society we should also be asking questions about the supply side of these bad habits.

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Post by mathgladiator »

phoneafriend wrote: post #119

Stick to the science folks. Let the MDs do what they do. Stats and population level studies are hard work. You need to vote somebody in who will support this, or live with the consequences.

I go with n=1 science and yolo hard with only eating meat! YOLO!

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Post by um1 »

dwroberts wrote: post #159
bolangi wrote: post #26

Some experts weigh in: https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/investigations/he...

The need to tap a bunch of discredited UK "scientists" to get the anti-mRNA perspective on the testimonies, should perhaps be an indicator that this viewpoint is not really credible (they couldn't find enough reputable doctors inside of the US willing to testify the same thing). Incidentally here's a really nicely written counter to many of the claims Malhotra has made: > Equally, evidence that mRNA vaccines cause ca…

I think you meant mRNA gene therapy. And despite the many issues with mRNA technology, the linked page specifically mentions covid-19 mRNA injections, which contains instructions for spike protein which causes inflammation which causes or is implicated in many diseases including cancers. Yeah won’t find many doctors stocking their necks out and funding for those type of studies don’t get well funded by the pharmaceutical companies/industry that make those products.
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