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FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Great. As if telecoms can be trusted with customers' id. AT&T left my name, address, social security etc in an improperly secured database for others to have, and they tried to open accounts with it; they had retained the information after I closed my account, and they denied the information was coming from them for years before they finally admitted it and gave us all a quarter to call someone who cares and a year o…

And your pin is 1234

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#104

No more anonymous driving, thanks to Flock. Soon, no more anonymous calls, thanks to the FCC. Your bank already knows everything about you; why not your operating system, too? Soon your ISP will only let you online if your OS sends them the "right" information: your government ID. We should also abolish cash while we're at it. The government needs to know every purchase you've ever made, no exceptions. Of course, the…

Flock is being rejected in a number of cities, thanks to citizens.

I am quite confident that there will eventually in any of those cities be some kind of major mass casualty type event that will be attributed to that rejection. I don’t hope for it and am sorry for all of humanity for what we are allowing to seemingly inevitably come about, but here we are; like cattle being herded to the feed lot. “But they’re saying they’ll feed you”, you will hear, “they don’t mean you ill. You should stop being a conspiracy theorists. This food is good.”

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#105

This is how it works in Australia, which means it's a pain for tourists as you need to provide a passport for ID and get it activated, as opposed to just grabbing one at an airport kiosk and being ready to go on your way to the taxi or train like most other places.

Has this changed recently? I thought I heard about this several years ago, but the last 2-3 times I've visited (in the last couple of years) I've been able to pick up a prepaid SIM from Colesworth without any ID check.

It has been like that for at least 8 years, and probably longer. There are still stalls at airports, but you must provide ID.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US you can buy a SIM card and activate without providing any information at the airport. At least in NYC. I was really surprised the first time

Why were you surprised?

Not who you were responding to, but most of the western world requires IDs already. The US is an outlier on this issue.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has this changed recently? I thought I heard about this several years ago, but the last 2-3 times I've visited (in the last couple of years) I've been able to pick up a prepaid SIM from Colesworth without any ID check.

It has been like that for at least 8 years, and probably longer. There are still stalls at airports, but you must provide ID.

Interesting. Seems like this isn't very consistently enforced, then.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#108

It was only a matter of time. The real issue is whether government's should have the right to metadata or the content of remote communications. Government's don't claim the right to monitor face to face communications so why should they have the right to do so for remote communications.

They don't have that right, that's why Ben Franklin set up the USPS

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has been like that for at least 8 years, and probably longer. There are still stalls at airports, but you must provide ID.

Interesting. Seems like this isn't very consistently enforced, then.

You may have bought the sim card but never activated it. It's not the device itself that is restricted, just using it.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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No more anonymous driving, thanks to Flock. Soon, no more anonymous calls, thanks to the FCC. Your bank already knows everything about you; why not your operating system, too? Soon your ISP will only let you online if your OS sends them the "right" information: your government ID. We should also abolish cash while we're at it. The government needs to know every purchase you've ever made, no exceptions. Of course, the…

> We should also abolish cash while we're at it. Why do you think all the rich people (and by extension the oligarchy running this country) are pushing Crypto?

I don’t think pointing that out will get very far. People didn’t notice when “democracy” was pushed by the same people, in direct contradiction to the Constitution. “Democracy” was the lynchpin to neutralize the Constitution and usher in oligarchic control again, just like digital/programmable currency will complete the pivot of slavery into a total and global system. Why only enslave a few people when you can enslave all people with smoke and mirrors that will make them cheer on their own deception with amusement.
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