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FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a good example. In Spain they notoriously demand id/passport and make photo or copy of it, they do it "for the police".

That’s the legal requirement yes, I’ve never seen a shop insist on it. Most of them have autofill scripts for the KYC forms.

Isn't the main topic of discussion here a legal requirement?

If everyone ignores it then what's the fuss about?

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#52

Here's the link to submit a comment to the FCC: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/express Ran a quick search and found a whole bunch of news articles, but nobody includes info that makes it easy to route your comment. Feels like the beginning of Hitchhiker's Guide: > It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.

Open to the possibility that I’m just cynical but my faith is very low that these comment processes are anything more than a regulatory requirement for the illusion of due diligence which legitimizes the actual corporate lobbying and security state actually making the policy.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#54
post #15

Fundamentally un-American. That being said, many countries across the world already do this to eliminate burner phones. And many messaging apps require a phone number anyways so this basically locks down anonymous messaging through a phone.

Well - it's not exactly a surprise that all these non-American countries engage in un-American practices. It's much more concerning when said practices are undertaken by the U.S. Just because other countries do something isn't a justification to bring the practice into the U.S. despite that being a justification used with increasing prevalence these days.

American exceptionalism was always a lie; name an “un-American” practice, and I'll show you a piece of American foreign policy.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#55
post #31

Isn’t this already a requirement? Can you really buy a burner phone/sim without providing identifying information?

In the US you can buy a SIM card and activate without providing any information at the airport. At least in NYC. I was really surprised the first time

Why were you surprised?

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#56
post #3

This is how it works in Australia, which means it's a pain for tourists as you need to provide a passport for ID and get it activated, as opposed to just grabbing one at an airport kiosk and being ready to go on your way to the taxi or train like most other places.

Don’t eSIMs solve this problem for tourists?

Doesn't an eSIM link the SIM to the phone's IMEI which is usually logged somewhere?

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#58

The Trump administration has been working overtime trying to build databases of people in this country. Leaving no stone unturned, legal or otherwise. I vaguely remember a time when American conservatives were against precisely this, often as a first principle. Maybe that's just an idealized memory on my part.

Spoiler: They were never against it, just biding their time.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#60
It was only a matter of time.

The real issue is whether government's should have the right to metadata or the content of remote communications.

Government's don't claim the right to monitor face to face communications so why should they have the right to do so for remote communications.

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