Maybe a way around this is for intermediary companies to own the phone that happens to have service and then lease the phone.
And with that suggestion, a clause is being added to close that loophole….
FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder what exactly are they hoping to achieve then? Anything that can be filled out in 1 minute in a taxi can be spoofed with an extra 30 seconds on the dark net buying dark IDs. So this does less than zero for crime, actually encourages more of it, while doing what exactly? It's madness.
Who says anything about crime? the goal is just so they can associate phone numbers with id cards in some fashion right? If they want to know what tourists are posting about their country that's good enough.
Like so many laws, nothing to do with stopping crime, but an obvious push to strip the populace of its rights.
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#43I wish they would kill spam calling and texting instead.
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#44Regardless of this, I see phone network as a legacy thing that in perfect world should already be replaced with lightweight upgradeable calling protocol over IPv6.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wasn't taking blatant fraud into account. I'm sure that's possible everywhere. I'd bet you can buy cigarettes without the tax stamps in the same shop too. Last I traveled the shop required a passport or uploading one to get an eSIM ahead of time.
Sure, but if you’re a tourist in e.g. Barcelona trying to get a prepaid SIM, odds are the shopkeeper will not ask you for your ID despite being required to. > Last I traveled the shop required a passport or uploading one to get an eSIM ahead of time. Sounds like you went to a carrier boutique and not one of the million independent shops.
I would think most tourists would trust a carrier-branded store over Honest Jochen's Tobacco Emporium where you may or may not get a working SIM after paying cash.
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They're already trying to regulate the shape of guns to effectively outlaw everything but the bullet.
Hopefully they tax th bejeesus out of bullets too. Who was the comedian “imma gona pop a cap in yo ass, but first imma set up a layaway”
Chris Rock. And honestly probably the easiest way for gun control
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#47US of A’s Chinafication letsgooooooo
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#48Fundamentally un-American. That being said, many countries across the world already do this to eliminate burner phones. And many messaging apps require a phone number anyways so this basically locks down anonymous messaging through a phone.
> many messaging apps require a phone number
But not all, so what's the actual point?
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#50This is how it works in Australia, which means it's a pain for tourists as you need to provide a passport for ID and get it activated, as opposed to just grabbing one at an airport kiosk and being ready to go on your way to the taxi or train like most other places.
> like most other places Much of EU requires ID for some time now. France is a bit strange, requires registration after 23 days or something. Germany, Italy, Spain it's basically impossible. The US is rather unique in that it does not require registration.
Argentina doesn't also, you can just buy a SIM card off the newsstand.