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Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by Starman_Jones »

janalsncm wrote: post #91
randyrand wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are an excess of teachers in the USA already. It’s a big reason they aren’t paid that well. No good reason to import them except to pay them even less .

Is there an excess of teachers in Alaska? I can understand why rural schools would need H1Bs. They would probably need to pay a premium to attract teachers from out of state, not to mention Alaska. And rural schools are the least able to actually do that. Maybe if the current admin really wants to keep the $100k fee, they can extend an olive branch by either waiving the fee or helping to fund American teachers to mov…

My sister was a schoolteacher in Alaska. They pay a premium, but it’s still not a life that most Americans are cut out for, including me. That means the schools have to choose between giving these kids subpar teachers who are happy to live up there, or miserable teachers who are only doing it for the money. Or, we can hire foreign teachers who are qualified AND are happy to teach up there.

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Post by fc417fc802 »

Grombobulous wrote: post #238
fc417fc802 wrote: post #202

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> there was no qualified American applicants. But are there qualified Americans who could easily switch to that job for one reason or another? Is the issue a lack of qualified professionals or is it a lack of interest by qualified professionals in the listed position? It's very easy to receive no applications from qualified professionals that do in fact exist by simply not offering to pay them enough (among many othe…

One of the problems is that geography and demographic movement trends within that geography is a very real thing. Let’s say a rural town has lost population in the last 20 years, and most of the population that left is educated. Now they need a teacher, which requires a bachelors or even masters degree. The rural town’s unemployment rate is 10% but there are no qualified teachers who are unemployed. So now we want to…

Yeah I agree with all that but notice that the comment I responded to was either about an analyst in the bay area or a stream of pavement design jobs in unspecified locations. I wouldn't necessarily object to the metric of "do qualified americans exist" being limited to a certain geographic area as long as the resulting criteria was sufficiently difficult to abuse.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by jojobas »

bluegatty wrote: post #87
jojobas wrote: post #66

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Hardly an argument to import teachers on work visas.

It's literally exactly the argument. If teachers were underpaid - it would be a poor argument. But if there's an acute shortage of 'key' workers in jobs that require education, for jobs where wages are materially above market pricing - then this is where you want H1B type programs. The idea is that it should not harm the local market for labour, and it's usually not reasonable to expect market wages to be a radical d…

Teachers are underpaid. No occupation paying under median wage in the area should be granted work visa.

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Post by wheelerwj »

esalman wrote: post #123
randyrand wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are an excess of teachers in the USA already. It’s a big reason they aren’t paid that well. No good reason to import them except to pay them even less .

I hear this argument all the time. There's an excess of this, there's an excess of that. Seems it only comes from people who are not directly involved in hiring of such roles. We hired for an analyst role few months ago in the bay area and there was no qualified American applicants. My wife is in pavement consultancy and they hardly ever find qualified Americans for pavement design jobs.

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Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by fc417fc802 »

Kab1r wrote: post #228
redslazer wrote: post #209

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Whether it is a fee or tax is less about whether it funds the government and more about whether when you pay the amount you get some benefit that you wouldn’t if you didn’t pay (above and beyond compliance with tax law). For example a fishing licence is a fee while a flood levy is a tax.

But then sales taxes are fees, no?

It does all seem a bit arbitrary doesn't it? If you frame it as purchasing the privilege of purchasing a certain quantity of arbitrary goods denominated in dollars then it sure looks like a fee. But obviously that isn't what is meant.

At the end of the day shall-issue permits, hyper specialized taxes, and fees all seem to amount to the same thing. However I think you can probably construct a reasonable criteria based on whether or not the other side of the transaction is fulfilled by the government and whether or not it is legal to do the thing by default. By that logic sales taxes and car tabs would indeed be taxes while fishing and camping permits would both be fees.

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Post by bijowo1676 »

dani__german wrote: post #239
bijowo1676 wrote: post #139

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there is already a program like that, its been running for ages, its called PLSF. Still not enough teachers. https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/forgiveness-cancellation... People who critique H1B always seem to assume that people actually hiring for labor are much dumber than those bright commenters and haven't exhausted each and every other opportunity to find qualified people. No, you are not being smarter than la…

you said "smarter" in this comment when a more accurate term is "corrupt". Being unable to find a candidate for your given budget requires that you either increase the budgeted salary or decrease the requirements, and train on the job. If you cannot do either of these, your company MUST fail. It is inhumane to demolish the US working class by importing foreign scab labor. Too much labor supply (aka immigration) decre…

OpenAI and Anthropic and others are paying millions to hire qualified people, yet they still have to hire H1Bs.

Dont tell me there are no Americans willing to take a million dollar job and these foreigners are causing wage decreases, despite tech salaries showing only increasing trend. Theres never been a year when tech salaries have decreased, not in 2008, not in 2000, not in 2020.

Its all hockey stick growth for tech people.

Housing supply is blocked by American citizens, mostly boomers, who oppose any development and oppose public transit. You cant blame foreigners for something that your fellow citizens are doing

Re Canada: I believe there is strong money laundering money flow in Canadian RE that has nothing to do with immigration. Its all illicit money being laundered by Canadians themselves

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Post by bsder »

esalman wrote: post #123
randyrand wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are an excess of teachers in the USA already. It’s a big reason they aren’t paid that well. No good reason to import them except to pay them even less .

I hear this argument all the time. There's an excess of this, there's an excess of that. Seems it only comes from people who are not directly involved in hiring of such roles. We hired for an analyst role few months ago in the bay area and there was no qualified American applicants. My wife is in pavement consultancy and they hardly ever find qualified Americans for pavement design jobs.

Capitalism has an answer for that ... it's called "higher salary."

Everybody loves capitalism--until they are on the other side of the arrow.

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Post by Qworg »

dani__german wrote: post #239
bijowo1676 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there is already a program like that, its been running for ages, its called PLSF. Still not enough teachers. https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/forgiveness-cancellation... People who critique H1B always seem to assume that people actually hiring for labor are much dumber than those bright commenters and haven't exhausted each and every other opportunity to find qualified people. No, you are not being smarter than la…

you said "smarter" in this comment when a more accurate term is "corrupt". Being unable to find a candidate for your given budget requires that you either increase the budgeted salary or decrease the requirements, and train on the job. If you cannot do either of these, your company MUST fail. It is inhumane to demolish the US working class by importing foreign scab labor. Too much labor supply (aka immigration) decre…

What are the knock on effects of lowering the total number of people/the velocity of money/the number of companies in America?

Canada's housing supply cost issues are driven by a wide variety of factors, very little having to do with immigration and far more with a small number of wealthy families owning a huge amount of land and a larger number of wealthy people holding many homes.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by esalman »

dani__german wrote: post #233
esalman wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear this argument all the time. There's an excess of this, there's an excess of that. Seems it only comes from people who are not directly involved in hiring of such roles. We hired for an analyst role few months ago in the bay area and there was no qualified American applicants. My wife is in pavement consultancy and they hardly ever find qualified Americans for pavement design jobs.

"We were unable to attract highly experienced data analysts, and we REFUSE to ever train anyone for any role, so we should be allowed to use scab labor to undercut American wages"

I have replied to another comment - we ended up hiring a fresh graduate with relevant research experience who is being trained for the role.
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