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Re: Siri AI

#411
post #109

I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space. They have incredible distribution and hardware. They just haven’t executed at the application layer yet.

what's worrisome is that they continue to fail at it. it's one thing to say "we're still hashing things out". it's another to parade around Image Generation features that are obviously widely not-cared-for and oftentimes actively disliked Apple cares greatly about their brand yet this has hurt their brand like nothing else in the past decade

Image generation seems like table stakes though, i.e. if you're going to offer a whole ass AI integrated with your operating system, it'd seem like a weird omission not to have image generation included.

Re: Siri AI

#412

Microsoft cannot compete in browser race and has to adopt Chromium. Apple cannot compete in AI and has to adopt Gemini Google is a really amazing company.

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Re: Siri AI

#413

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As a consumer it also doesn't seem right that Apple can just use all their private APIs that no other company is allowed to use to tell me what I can and can't use on my phone. If I want Anthropic to have the same level of access that Apple grants itself on _my_ phone, I should be able to do so.

If I want Anthropic to have the same level of access that Apple grants itself on _my_ phone, I should be able to do so. I want to install my personal software on my refrigerator, washing machine, hand shaver, coffee maker. I bought them. They're mine. /s If people want to buy open hardware, then just buy those. If they don't exist, make them yourself.

Just make a new phone OS lol, problem solved.

Re: Siri AI

#414

The second slide on the site is… it’s gotta be a troll from some pissed off designer, right? Screenshotted in case they change it https://imgur.com/a/n1I3z8g

I don't get it, this looks like what I'd expect it to show me if I asked it to find a certain message. I assume tapping on that message would bring me straight to that point in the conversation.

Re: Siri AI

#415
post #156
post #24

They’re adding vibecoded shortcuts (the high level scripting for Apple devices). Hopefully that means they worked out some of the long-existing bugs and missing features, but I’m not optimistic. Still, could be a useful tool, especially for less tech-literate people.

If they are ok with shortcuts being vibecoded, maybe it's time to expose a proper programming language to the end users as well. All my automation shortcuts can be easily explained in pseudo code under 5 minutes, but it took me ages to put them together because that weird UI/UX forcing me to drag-and-drop squares around to manipulate data structures. Programmers hate it, non-programmers can't understand it, it is not…

You can write AppleScript in JavaScript, a much better language than applescript itself. Neither are usable outside of macOS ofc

Re: Siri AI

#416
post #156
post #24

They’re adding vibecoded shortcuts (the high level scripting for Apple devices). Hopefully that means they worked out some of the long-existing bugs and missing features, but I’m not optimistic. Still, could be a useful tool, especially for less tech-literate people.

If they are ok with shortcuts being vibecoded, maybe it's time to expose a proper programming language to the end users as well. All my automation shortcuts can be easily explained in pseudo code under 5 minutes, but it took me ages to put them together because that weird UI/UX forcing me to drag-and-drop squares around to manipulate data structures. Programmers hate it, non-programmers can't understand it, it is not…

I've never been more frustrated programming something than when I tried to build a non-trivial Shortcut. Things that I could have expressed in a quick script took me literal hours to compose and debug using the WYSIWYG interface. And since there's no version control, any mistake runs the risk of dislocating an element or messing up an input/output connection and breaking everything permanently.

Re: Siri AI

#418

The second slide on the site is… it’s gotta be a troll from some pissed off designer, right? Screenshotted in case they change it https://imgur.com/a/n1I3z8g

I don't get it, this looks like what I'd expect it to show me if I asked it to find a certain message. I assume tapping on that message would bring me straight to that point in the conversation.

Using AI to summarize a message by saying what the message says in the same amount of words as the message So helpful!

Re: Siri AI

#419

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Lol. That makes it almost make sense. It’s still showing me a summary of a text that uses exactly the same amount of space to convey exactly the same amount of information. Like, that’s just search - i’ve been able to get this info by typing “plant” into the search bar since they added spotlight in iPhoneOS 3.0 back in 2009 It’s also a text from 9:14am the same day. If this is the second slide in your marketing slide…

The reason it's showing you what's in the text is to show you a search result. The text is essentially the proof. When the user asks what plant she was telling you about, they don't have the text in front of them. It could be 200 texts back.

> It could be 200 texts back.

Ok? But if I search for something just show me the thing I searched for (the proof). There is literally no need to repeat it in a slightly different tense. Who is that helping?

Re: Siri AI

#420
post #228

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> I don't really believe in Apple being that quality team. Why?

Maybe observing Siri for the past 10 years? They have no expertise in this area and their software quality as never been worse.

Tbh I assumed the Passwords team would be handling this and not the Siri team. Maybe I'm wrong.
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