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Re: Siri AI

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Post by aurareturn »

barumrho wrote: post #38

This looks pretty promising to me. It will likely replace the need to set up OpenClaw for average personal users. The work of getting email, messages, and all the personal data on the phone as context seamlessly is not as straightforward as one might think. I'm curious how the pricing will work. Would it be free up to some limit and then some subscription pricing? I can't imagine it can be free unlimited usage given…

This is why OpenAI thinks it needs to build its own physical devices. If Apple is only allowing its own AI to operate at the OS level, then that leaves OpenAI with no choice but to build their own.

Meta also realized this and attempted multiple times to build their own hardware but they've given up each time. They started as early as a partnering with HTC in 2011 to make a Facebook phone.

Quite frankly, I'm kind of excited to see what OpenAI can build. I think an AI-first phone could challenge iOS and Android. It's a new paradigm and if OpenAI gets it right, it'll be very hard for Apple and Google to pivot.

I personally think chat + code is the future of apps. For example, I find myself wanting to do many things inside ChatGPT instead of traditional app because I can tell it to do things that are simply impossible on a static app UI. For example, I have some data I want to send to an app but before I do, I want ChatGPT to clean the data in some way first. And then after the data is uploaded, I want ChatGPT to pull some data off the API and make charts that I want to see.

I imagine a world where very intelligent models run at 10k tokens/s, app building is extremely standardized, and it simply builds any app you want inside the OS. IE, if you want a dashboard of your health data, you ask it to build it almost instantly exactly how you want it. I'm already doing something similar today but it's slow and not easy to do for non-engineers.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by bilsbie »

It’s weird it says I can ask Siri about a document in front of me but can I ask it about a webpage I’m currently reading?

(It’s been driving me crazy there’s no “AI this” button to discuss whatever is on my screen.)

Re: Siri AI

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Post by [deleted] »

nozzlegear wrote: post #42
reconnecting wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, seriously, AI = Apple Intelligence? It's not even funny, it's not smart. It's like if they released MS Siri and said it's Mac System Siri.

> I mean, seriously, AI = Apple Intelligence? For pedantry's sake, they were saying "AI = Apple Intelligence" last year as well, so it's not like they just pulled it out of their butts now that popular opinion has turned against AI.

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Re: Siri AI

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Post by nozzlegear »

avarun wrote: post #23
seaal wrote: post #13

>Fix passwords with a tap. >The Passwords app alerts you to weak or compromised passwords and can update them on your behalf without the hassle. Finally, I hope this works well. Personally one of the worst things to deal with.

1Password has been able to do this for five+ years. Frankly, it doesn't even really need agentic AI, although a talented team could probably make it perform better with agentic AI. I don't really believe in Apple being that quality team.

> I don't really believe in Apple being that quality team.

Why?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by CrzyLngPwd »

Great, as long as I can switch it off and use my phone as I always have, I'm happy for them.

I can't wait to take a photo of a cricket ball and ask it what it is, ffs.

These people need to get out, touch grass, watch trees swaying in the breeze, and put their phones down before they lose toonmany neurons.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by nico »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #26
nico wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The demo video there is so underwhelming. They show very basic stuff, which I assumed Siri was already capable of doing... not sure what the big improvement is

Based on my experience, I assume Siri is not capable of anything more than setting timers or referring me to my phone to see the search results.

And that’s pretty much what they show in the demo, plus asking it for directions on Apple Maps (which it can also do already), and searching for pictures on the Photos app (which I just tried and it can’t do - so it looks like that’s the main feature)

Re: Siri AI

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Post by [deleted] »

losvedir wrote: post #22
minimaxir wrote: post #8

I wonder how much of Siri AI is Apple-developed and how much of it is Google-developed as a result of Gemini. The a) search demos and b) image generation demos seem unlikely to have been done by Apple alone, the demos being closer to Google Search and Nano Banana respectively.

I was wondering the same. I have to imagine it's mostly Gemini, unless Apple has a big, secret, SotA foundation model no one has heard of? But if it is Gemini, how does that work with their Private Cloud thing? Are they able to load the Gemini weights into it?

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Re: Siri AI

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Post by nixpulvis »

seaal wrote: post #13

>Fix passwords with a tap. >The Passwords app alerts you to weak or compromised passwords and can update them on your behalf without the hassle. Finally, I hope this works well. Personally one of the worst things to deal with.

Apple Passwords reliably updates passwords in its database before the password is confirmed to be actually changed. I've been locked out of accounts many times to this. They really need to focus on these basic UX issues.
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