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Re: Siri AI

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Post by parodysbird »

nandomrumber wrote: post #273
vrganj wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is, Europeans are mostly annoyed with Apple over this, not the EC. It just reads like arrogant foreigners throwing a tantrum over our laws.

I struggle to believe there isn’t a significant fraction of EU citizens who are frustrated with the EU’s laws. At the very least to the extent that the whole setup limits national sovereignty. Your comment comes across as though you expect us to believe EU citizens are a homogenous whole, who happen to align with your perspective on this matter.

Supranational regulations limit national sovereignty, news at 11.

Across the gamut of regulations the EU has, it's not really the ones that apply to Apple that draw much ire.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by cush »

jesse_dot_id wrote: post #152

I didn't really see anything that knocked my socks off. Mostly, it's the promise that Siri now works in the way in which they said it would work a few years ago, when it didn't. I do like the addition of Siri in the context menu, though. I can see that being useful.

I’m excited at the idea of Siri having its own app, if nothing but for it to not disappear while I’m reading a response.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by cush »

mattmaroon wrote: post #245

I switched from android to iOS 7 years ago and I’ve actually been debating going back just because of how bad iOS is at AI. And every other facet of my life, I am finding ways for it to save my time on an almost daily basis. And yet on iOS, just finding something from a text Message is still a nightmare. Siri seems to rarely get better and sometimes actually get worse.

Siri got nerfed a few years ago. “Here’s what I found on the web” is now the default answer. It used to pull answers from the search results

Re: Siri AI

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Post by baby_souffle »

cromka wrote: post #323
seanssel wrote: post #288

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It’s the keyboard for me. I don’t remember making as many typing mistakes when I was on an Android phone. It’s also infuriating trying to “select all” for copy or move the cursor to beginning with the spacebar motion. I swear it’s like I’m using a phone in a dream sometimes.

For me it's all the above and lack of multiple-item clipboard. It's incredible how much time it saves on a phone...

Did iOS ever get OCR based copy/paste?

Pixels have had it for years but I think it's in every android phone now; from the app switcher you can press and hold and the system will OCR the text and allow you to copy it.

Because so many things _still_ don't make that easy to do on mobile.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by hbn »

Danox wrote: post #244
gilbetron wrote: post #77

I don't care much about Siri, and not a lot about Apple (other than as an investment), but Apple is generally really good about putting out polished tech, and so I'm curious if Siri AI will be up to their usual standards, because if so, it represents a significant usage of AI that has solved hallucination issues. But that's a big If!

The big if is does it work on device without phoning home? For example, Google or Meta as a Ad/data collection company wants to phone home for everything because they want to collect data on you, what will this Apple solution do?

There's extensive writing about Apple's Private Cloud Compute architecture.

It's beyond my expertise, but it's publicly available if you're curious.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by kemayo »

mikestorrent wrote: post #314
ninth_ant wrote: post #130

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Apple has over-promised and under-delivered so many times in this space, going back to the launch of the original Siri. So while they could win, it’s pretty hard to get hyped about it before we see real-world tests.

Most people don't care that Siri doesn't do very much; if anything, people outside of HN are already sorta sick of AI features being shoved in their face.

Siri has always been pretty useful for the things I use it for: setting timers and reminders, and turning off my lights after I'm in bed.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by hbn »

pupppet wrote: post #126

Here's hoping they've finally fixed iOS's terrible dictation.

They actually released a pretty good dictation model in the OS 26 updates. Someone made a cli utility to play with it:

https://github.com/finnvoor/yap

I tried it and was pretty impressed. That said I haven't heard anything yet about them switching to this for the text input voice dictation in iOS but it would be really nice.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by charcircuit »

xp84 wrote: post #264
charcircuit wrote: post #183

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They may be limiting entropy to make it easier for users to remember their password. A user that can't log in is most likely one that will churn.

I don't think firms like the electric company or (payroll company) ADP are worried that I'll churn. Also, the Venn diagram of "memorable" and "reasonably secure" really only intersects in the region of "Correct horse battery staple" phrases -- and the problematic sites I'm talking about nearly always limit length, which thwarts that type of password terribly. What is the purpose of maxlength on a password?? These sho…

The entropy of a hashed password is limited by how many bits long the hash is.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by joshstrange »

kennywinker wrote: post #347

The second slide on the site is… it’s gotta be a troll from some pissed off designer, right? Screenshotted in case they change it https://imgur.com/a/n1I3z8g

I believe that is showing the results of a search, as in something like "What Plant was Aga telling me about the other day?". The website doesn't make that clear but they asked questions like that in the keynote (not that specific one).
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