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Switzerland wil have a referendum to cap population at 10M

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Post by themanmaran »

rayiner wrote: post #272
kgwxd wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Border control is not equivalent to racism. The people pushing for it loudly just tend to be doing it for blatantly racist reasons. Unsurprisingly, those people tend to abuse any ounce of power given to them. When they're granted extraordinary government powers, they make up official sounding reason to achieve their racist agenda. Hence the general consensus that any talk of border control is racism. The non-racist-d…

You think people who support border controls are simply prejudiced based on skin color? Like, their problem with Little Mogadishu or Little Bangladesh is that people in those places don't need sunscreen? Do you think that, if Ilhan Omar was Albanian, people would love her?

That's literally not what he said. He's saying the majority of people supporting border controls are not racist, but the vocal minority are the ones who "boast about arrests" / "make up stories about crime or eating cats and dogs"

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Post by rayiner »

Teever wrote: post #327
tpholland wrote: post #307

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Switzerland does not have a homogenous population, and to a reasonable person who has travelled in Switzerland I think this is an insane thing to be defending. A significant proportion of the population (certainly for Europe) do not even share a common first language. Significant proportions sit on different sides of the reformation which is again a big deal for Europe. etc

I think that it's pretty obvious that the user that you're responding to is using the term 'homogenous' as a euphemism for "white"

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Post by tpholland »

philipallstar wrote: post #350
Teever wrote: post #327

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I think that it's pretty obvious that the user that you're responding to is using the term 'homogenous' as a euphemism for "white"

I'm not - not everything is about race. That's a pretty basic lesson that World War 2 taught us, that you should have learned.

What did you mean when you said homogenous, given the reality of Switzerland, its history, its civil structure, its languages, and its culture?

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Post by mschuster91 »

philipallstar wrote: post #252
mschuster91 wrote: post #234

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> only spends 16% of GDP on public welfare It's easy to not have to spend much money on public welfare when there is a constant stream of foreign money floating in.

That doesn't make much sense. Do you think foreign money is directly paid to people who would otherwise be welfare recipients? Is there anything foreign money can't do, would you say?

When foreign money flows into the economy, it generates jobs, and because there is so much of it, these jobs can be well paid. And when you got a population that has a low unemployment rate and high wages, you consequently need to spend less money on social welfare.

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Post by surgical_fire »

shevy-java wrote: post #7

Great that they can vote, but this is also stupid. Plus, it works both ways, so if Switzerland wants to add a cap to limit movement then it won't be able to enjoy free movement in the EU either. I totally understand why Norway and Switzerland do not want to join the EU; the EU has tons of problems, but this kind of cherry-picking is simply unfair to the other EU members. (Also, the EU has to stop expanding. It consta…

"constantly"

What the EU needs to get rid of is of the veto power. Otherwise I welcome our neighbors to the east as long as they are willing to play by the rules.

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

philipallstar wrote: post #227
bootsmann wrote: post #184

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> more people with certain skills (if you're filtering based on that) This is how freedom of movement works, yes, and it's a key reason why our country is so rich.

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> it provides an incredibly valuable and trustworthy banking service to the world

For most people in developing countries, Swiss banks are places where politicians and rich people stash ill-gotten wealth (corruption, crime, etc), because they know the banks will never let the legal system get back the money.

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Post by throwaway85825 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #343
throwaway85825 wrote: post #305

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Homogeneous in the modern use of the word.

> Homogeneous in the modern use What does it mean if it includes heterogenous populations from linguistic, historic, religious and even cultural backgrounds?

While it's terribly fascinating for linguists it's generally understood that the languages and cultures within Switzerland are more related and generally homogeneous than when compared with for example asiatic language and culture.

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Post by greggoB »

lifestyleguru wrote: post #237

Switzerland is much less desirable and attractive than they think they are.

That's not at all reflected in the immigration numbers: ot has one of the highest proportional rates of immigration in Europe, and the brain drain of top talent from neighbouring countries has actually been a point of moral finger-wagging.

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