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Re: Siri AI

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Post by kqp »

umpalumpaaa wrote: post #93
nixpulvis wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Passwords reliably updates passwords in its database before the password is confirmed to be actually changed. I've been locked out of accounts many times to this. They really need to focus on these basic UX issues.

1Password gives you access to previous passwords you had for that reason. Unfortunately not for other fields like email, notes etc… IMHO the perfect password app could just keep all previous versions of any field until the user deletes the history.

1Password does do full previous versions. It might be a newer feature, I’m only seeing passwords, not full versions, prior to 2018.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by soledades »

arcatech wrote: post #87
crancher wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the key thing is that Spotlight is now creating a... knowledge graph? of everything on your device for Siri's consideration. That's potentially very useful.

I think it’s just storing embeddings now.

well there is this: https://9to5mac.com/2026/02/11/kuzu-database-company-joins-a...

Re: Siri AI

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Post by h14h »

manmal wrote: post #83
h14h wrote: post #76

Apple Shortcuts have felt like a blatantly obvious AI play to me for a while now. The interface for creating them manually has been so bad for so long, it feels clear to me that LLM-driven shortcut orchestration was always the endgame. Apple built up their ecosystem of composable "tools", and then trained an LLM on how to call them. The result, IMO, is the first OpenClaw/Hermes competitor that's feasible for use by t…

Why do I need shortcuts though, I want that to be transparent.

Good point, that's probably gonna be the hardest sell.

I have shortcuts set up to count the hours I log in my work Google calendar and copy them to my clipboard to help me prepare invoices.

So while I've already been sold on what Shortcuts can do, getting the general public to see the possibilities is probably gonna be a challenge.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by xp84 »

h14h wrote: post #76

Apple Shortcuts have felt like a blatantly obvious AI play to me for a while now. The interface for creating them manually has been so bad for so long, it feels clear to me that LLM-driven shortcut orchestration was always the endgame. Apple built up their ecosystem of composable "tools", and then trained an LLM on how to call them. The result, IMO, is the first OpenClaw/Hermes competitor that's feasible for use by t…

I think Shortcuts has a few massive flaws that would give me pause enshrining it as middleware for an important thing like a "mainstream OpenClaw".

1 is performance. It's slow. You can run one within the app and literally watch execution flow from one block to the next. Absurd, for the CPU power at hand.

2 is reliance on developers to deliberately implement hooks and "intents" when the developers of at least half of apps including most "big company" apps do not care to bother, often because 95% of their app's surface is actually cross-platform stuff.

Example: There are no shortcut actions for Google Calendar, and Gmail only has one real one which is a generic send email. No "search email" etc.

I'd rather see Apple lean into "computer use" to allow it to use any app that displays things on the screen, but IDK how you make that safe.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by xp84 »

drummojg wrote: post #88
ftth_finland wrote: post #70

Please don’t suck.

Right? I've been waiting a lot of years for an upgrade to my voice-activated timer setter/music player launcher.

Can't even get that right sometimes. A few weeks ago I somehow accidentally activated Siri and it decided that what I wanted was for it to play some kind of terrifying industrial electronic noise music that scared my kid.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by threetonesun »

graypegg wrote: post #19
reconnecting wrote: post #5

Amazing how this time Apple found the `sweet spot` to release Siri AI when the letter combination A and I has fed up literally everyone.

Watching the keynote at our office on a big screen and everyone collectively sighing when they announced the name felt indicative haha. I think it just feels uncreative? Siri as a brand has some value, but if you want it to feel like a watershed moment where old Siri is "behind us" finally, just give it a new name.

It's going to be weird though when my phone has Siri AI and my Homepod has Siri... "please ask on your iPhone" edition. I also don't quite get the distinction of Siri as an app versus the Siri I yell at to make my TV do something.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by graypegg »

xp84 wrote: post #89
reconnecting wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think Apple has the option to rebrand Siri at this stage, assuming people actually call Siri by name. However, turning AI into 'Apple Intelligence' doesn't feel creative either.

> assuming people actually call Siri by name This doesn't follow for me. They can trivially allow it to still respond to the old wakeword. They should absolutely change the name in the event they can finally make it useful, because "Siri" is (in my mind and many others') a synonym for "hapless idiot." "Thanks, Siri" has been uttered hundreds of time in my house and my car, and 100% of the time it's sarcastic.

Same thing in my head. I only see this going one way, which is tons of people hear that Siri “got better” after this update.

Many of those people will speak a language that’s not English, or live in the EU or China where it’ll still be “Siri”, not “Siri AI”.

“Do you have the new Siri?”

“Yeah I updated… but she still seems so dumb”

“Oh yeah… well that’s Siri for you I guess”

Horrifying for marketing folk, I would presume. You’re just setting people up to confirm that Siri is always useless and improvements are invisible.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by wxw »

I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space. They have incredible distribution and hardware. They just haven’t executed at the application layer yet.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by layer8 »

aurareturn wrote: post #51
barumrho wrote: post #38

This looks pretty promising to me. It will likely replace the need to set up OpenClaw for average personal users. The work of getting email, messages, and all the personal data on the phone as context seamlessly is not as straightforward as one might think. I'm curious how the pricing will work. Would it be free up to some limit and then some subscription pricing? I can't imagine it can be free unlimited usage given…

This is why OpenAI thinks it needs to build its own physical devices. If Apple is only allowing its own AI to operate at the OS level, then that leaves OpenAI with no choice but to build their own. Meta also realized this and attempted multiple times to build their own hardware but they've given up each time. They started as early as a partnering with HTC in 2011 to make a Facebook phone. Quite frankly, I'm kind of e…

> If Apple is only allowing its own AI to operate at the OS level

Incidentally, that’s what’s preventing Apple from rolling out their OS-privileged AI in the EU, as the EU mandates equal access for competing AI products. It will be interesting how this plays out.

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