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Re: Show HN: Performative-UI – A react component library of design tropes

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Post by Lalabadie »

4chandaily wrote: post #59
thewebguyd wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the marketing world this is called revealed preference. This stuff is A/B tested to death. Anyone trying to sell something is best served by watching people's behavior instead of listening to what they say, as the two are often different if not polar opposites.

The perspective marketing world seems toxic. From the perspective of the "consumer", it sure does feel like we are being "ignored", "tricked", or "bamboozled" when our stated preferences are ignored in favor of "revealed preference". It isn't that we have a "preference" for these things, it is far more likely that a user just doesn't have their guard up 100% of the time, and these psychological manipulations are desi…

It's behavioral marketing, vs status/aspirational marketing.

A stated preference isn't necessarily current or situational (I will choose to run instead of watching another 45 minutes of Youtube videos).

A situational preference is often inertia, and behavioral marketing will directly hinder the meta cognitive processes that usually give us the agency to override our default mode choices (John has been on YouTube for the last 20 minutes, what next suggestion is not likely to keep him there?)

Re: Show HN: Performative-UI – A react component library of design tropes

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Post by kidfiji »

jdw64 wrote: post #87

The funny thing is, the techniques shown here are the ones that were once considered something only advanced front-end developers or publishers could do. Seeing that a former symbol of skill has now become a subject of satire makes me think that what we call 'high-level' ultimately comes from what others can't do. I personally never even thought about how to implement ASCII art animation.

It's less about "can't do" and more about creativity :)

Re: Show HN: Performative-UI – A react component library of design tropes

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Post by sph »

andy_ppp wrote: post #77
thomascgalvin wrote: post #69

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https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/

My god, it's perfect.

  
  
  BERKSHIRE
God, that takes me back. MSHTML, the mismatched tags, , table layout, the webmaster that added the Google Analytics snippet before the DOCTYPE tag

Re: Show HN: Performative-UI – A react component library of design tropes

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Post by gryn »

thewebguyd wrote: post #41
epolanski wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same for clickbait thumbnails, people hate them, and yet don't really click on non clickbaity ones.

In the marketing world this is called revealed preference. This stuff is A/B tested to death. Anyone trying to sell something is best served by watching people's behavior instead of listening to what they say, as the two are often different if not polar opposites.

Better for you(the seller) vs better for me (the buyer)

Two agents with two different utility functions fighting each other, it's an adversarial relationship/game.

The fight is for your limited attention span.

Clickbaity titles or least informative ones, 20min of rambling for what could've been a 2min video or article, spreading the meat of the info in the later half of the video for better retention instead of the beginning, highly misleading previews at the beggining, etc ... are good for the content producer but not so much for the content viewer that has to sift through it only to reliaze that didn't care about that particular thing.

Not limited to videos, but also things to buy the meat of the technical/practical description of the product get worse and worse each year and the other proxy signals for them too.

Seems like marketing is a lot like military conflict drown the enemy in lot of noise to drop the SNR.

what's that you want to buy a 4k video projector and set a filter for it? here it is for cheaper. Oh, you wanted the actual dots on the wall resolution to be 4k instead of max supported input signal, oops.

You're used to higher price meaning better quality? guess we'll flood that price point with shitier quality progressively until we find your limit

Re: Show HN: Performative-UI – A react component library of design tropes

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Post by marcosdumay »

thewebguyd wrote: post #41
epolanski wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same for clickbait thumbnails, people hate them, and yet don't really click on non clickbaity ones.

In the marketing world this is called revealed preference. This stuff is A/B tested to death. Anyone trying to sell something is best served by watching people's behavior instead of listening to what they say, as the two are often different if not polar opposites.

I guess in the social sciences world this is called institutional erosion...

Youtube is a perfectly "unbiased" "democratic" repository, where crazy people shouting conspiracies and prize-winning documentaries have the same thumbnail and half-line of text for you to discover if they are any good.

Re: Show HN: Performative-UI – A react component library of design tropes

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Post by [deleted] »

kidfiji wrote: post #92
jdw64 wrote: post #87

The funny thing is, the techniques shown here are the ones that were once considered something only advanced front-end developers or publishers could do. Seeing that a former symbol of skill has now become a subject of satire makes me think that what we call 'high-level' ultimately comes from what others can't do. I personally never even thought about how to implement ASCII art animation.

It's less about "can't do" and more about creativity :)

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Re: Show HN: Performative-UI – A react component library of design tropes

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Post by yieldcrv »

tfitz237 wrote: post #3

These all look very professional for (basically) a parody library

Just because they're showing contempt for the process doesn't mean the process isn't refined

Joking about something tends to require an interconnected understanding of it

Re: Show HN: Performative-UI – A react component library of design tropes

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Post by lizhang »

reactordev wrote: post #83
prplfsh wrote: post #80

I love how this is both hilarious and extremely well made. Great job! And I'm gonna be honest, I kind of want to use a few of these components for real (the ASCII art is fantastic).

I was going to say that too. Some of these I definitely am guilty of. I have a few dozen that aren't on the list but it's a breath of fresh air to see it so well organized even though, we all know what it is :D fantastic job to the author(s).

please share your few dozen components

Re: Show HN: Performative-UI – A react component library of design tropes

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Post by NewsaHackO »

hntiz wrote: post #86
dayjah wrote: post #58

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I think homogeneity is an unavoidable end game for the internet (unfortunately). At work we’ve been discussing whether to migrate off our home grown component library to Material UI. I shudder at the thought, personally. However, a compelling reason to use a ubiquitous framework is that the ubiquity means folks intuitively know how to interact with your product. Like many of us I was born into a deeply customizable I…

> a compelling reason to use a ubiquitous framework is that the ubiquity means folks intuitively know how to interact with your product Not that I disagree with you, but I'll also offer a tradeoff. When people expect to pick up your app intuitively, it can also just mean them using the app absent-mindedly, which can mean them skipping the manual and jumping straight to trying to tie up the support lines. Whereas if y…

I guess the issue is that when someone can't use a product immediately, they have an urge to abandon it altogether, not learn how to use it.
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