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DoD Officially Drops 180 Faiths from Military's Recognized Religion List
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#22It's notable that the original list with the extra 180 religions was from Trump's first term, so this is another example of the doubling down on white Christian identity politics that has come to define Trump's second term. Also one small potentially controversial decision here that I find amusing in a narcissism of small differences kind of way, Mormons aren't considered Christian according to this list.
one core tenant of Christianity is that Christ the Messiah obviates prophecy. No denomination of Christianity (AFAIK) considers the LDS as true Christians...except for the LDS themselves
From the beginning of the Assemblies of God, prophecy has been affirmed as a spiritual gift for the Church today. Since the Day of Pentecost, the Church has functioned as a prophetic community. Any Spirit-filled believer may prophesy while discernment and judgment of prophecy belong to the full body of Christ.
~ https://ag.org/Beliefs/Position-Papers/Modern-Day-Prophecy( no vested interest here, I've got Wagyl riding shotgun on the stagecoach of my life )
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#23They don't recognize atheists anymore? Am I reading that right?
Uh, honest question: why would you put atheist on a list of religions? Like…leave the religion off the dog tag and that communicates enough right? What’s there to recognize? I’m super not trying to be antagonistic. I’m trying to understand why an atheist would be upset by this.
It being a "list of religions" is just a semantic distraction, like saying "bald" shouldn't be on a list of hair colors.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uh, honest question: why would you put atheist on a list of religions? Like…leave the religion off the dog tag and that communicates enough right? What’s there to recognize? I’m super not trying to be antagonistic. I’m trying to understand why an atheist would be upset by this.
Religion provides certain benefits in the military. If you are say a Christian, you get assigned time to go to a (hopefully) air conditioned church and relax and recover. Even if it’s short, it can be beneficial to collect yourself in a high stress situation like basic training/boot camp. If you elect not to go to a religious service, you typically have to keep doing whatever you are doing. Atheists or other less org…
Re: DoD Officially Drops 180 Faiths from Military's Recognized Religion List
#25It's notable that the original list with the extra 180 religions was from Trump's first term, so this is another example of the doubling down on white Christian identity politics that has come to define Trump's second term. Also one small potentially controversial decision here that I find amusing in a narcissism of small differences kind of way, Mormons aren't considered Christian according to this list.
The choice with Mormons is technically correct. Those who use theological considerations to define Christianity generally don't accept Mormons as Christians. For example, the Catholic Church sees Mormonism a non-Christian religion, because it rejects the Nicene Creed. People who base Christianity on cultural identity are more likely to include Mormons in the definition.
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#26They don't recognize atheists anymore? Am I reading that right?
The religion list doesn't mean that much. The religious respect requirements for the armed forces are codified in law; the DoD can't alter them.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
one core tenant of Christianity is that Christ the Messiah obviates prophecy. No denomination of Christianity (AFAIK) considers the LDS as true Christians...except for the LDS themselves
Just to clear this up, all the various "Christian" ministries that embrace modern prophecy and prophets are, therefore, not actually Christian? From the beginning of the Assemblies of God, prophecy has been affirmed as a spiritual gift for the Church today. Since the Day of Pentecost, the Church has functioned as a prophetic community. Any Spirit-filled believer may prophesy while discernment and judgment of prophecy…
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#28They don't recognize atheists anymore? Am I reading that right?
Is "no religion" atheist? Or is "Atheism" an organized religion now?
That’s what was officially on my docs, the whole time while in the Air Force
Athiesm continues to not be a religion despite religious people trying to make it stick
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#29What's the effect of this? I don't really understand why they have a "recognised" list at all or what the implications are.
Re: DoD Officially Drops 180 Faiths from Military's Recognized Religion List
#30It's notable that the original list with the extra 180 religions was from Trump's first term, so this is another example of the doubling down on white Christian identity politics that has come to define Trump's second term. Also one small potentially controversial decision here that I find amusing in a narcissism of small differences kind of way, Mormons aren't considered Christian according to this list.