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Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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Post by Elixir6419 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #144
criticalfault wrote: post #140

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and is Qualcomm is sleeping on Linux?

Seems like not? Judging based on https://github.com/qualcomm-linux something is happening, although I can't say how much. They definitively seem awake at least.

one of the biggest issue i see is the devicetree nonsense. It makes every single laptop and bios version very unique and requires a lot of housekeeping. There are also big chunks of work (as i understand it) to be done around hibernate and decent suspend support.

My experience (wanted to use x13s as daily sriver) is that there was good progress for about a year, until jhovold was leading the charge, but something expired and qualcom as far as i can tell forgot that some progress should happen on x1 and x8c as well as x2.

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Post by kmac_ »

jeroenhd wrote: post #186
GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #88

And who in 2026 is still anal-fixated on a "Windows" PC? It's just a personal computer. It normally runs multiple operating systems just fine. Windows PC sounds like people talking about tech who are either payed by M$, or embed pictures into Word documents to send them. Nobody has to kill the fun those OS agnostic machine allow, by artificially bind them to a shitty OS.

Hopefully anyone who wants to run anything other than Windows on an Nvidia-produced device has learned their lessons at this point. Although, a cursed Nvidia Hackintosh would be extremely funny. For normal people, there are three computer operating systems: Windows, Apple, and ChromeOS. Nvidia isn't going with ChromeOS and Apple hates their guts, so Windows is the only normal operating system they can market. Their m…

Windows is dying a death by a thousand small, user-unfriendly decisions. This is genuinely sad because the technology underlying Windows is actually very robust and flexible.

So, the partnership is maybe natural, but not prospective. Also, note how Linux is getting popular among gamers. Of course, it's way behind Windows, but the direction of the change is clear.

I'm convinced that Nvidia is not primarily targeting the consumer market and that the ultimate goal for its CPUs is the server space. The company invests effort where the money is, and consumer products account for only a fraction of its total revenue. Maintaining a presence in the consumer market seems more like a way to avoid a complete pivot than a strategic priority.

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Post by ako »

fg137 wrote: post #128
root-parent wrote: post #72

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"I am not sure how many people will run AI models locally. It still seems like a niche application to me. However, it will make decent machines to play video games..." This is the 2026 edition of Ken Olsen: "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home"

You seriously think running LLM is the same thing as general computing?

It’s better, it’s useful even for those who don’t have a deep knowledge of computers. I’d expect more AI users than programmers, than ms-word users, than excel users.

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Post by cyanydeez »

throw1234567891 wrote: post #194
cyanydeez wrote: post #183

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no, the fact that MACs and x86 and soon ARM are all going to have 128GB models in every sector, yeah, sure. But watching everyone flounder because claude goes down or forcing you on API costs. I'm programming things that'd take me days with a PC that, without OpenAI's VRAM shenagans, would cost you $2k. It's more than just 'this is what I could do' it's definitely about 'this is what anyone could do with a new PC pur…

You must be unaware that System76 was already selling 192GB machines, mac studios used to be 512GB max. The only reason why we don’t have them anymore is that we are in RAM shortage.

I'm aware you can have more. the term "SWEET SPOT" references a area that anyone/everyone can get to and isn't some magical expensive unicorn.

You're doing what the IT industry has been addicted to for decades: number goes up.

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Post by supermatt »

kristov wrote: post #176
throw0101a wrote: post #83

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> This is the 2026 edition of Ken Olsen: "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home" Digging into this: > In conclusion, there is evidence that Ken Olsen did doubt the need for computers in the home, but the evidence is based primarily on the testimony of David Ahl who was perturbed when the personal computer project he championed at DEC was not supported by Olsen in 1974. > Olsen’s resistance may…

We kinda ended up with terminals connected to mainframes anyway. The terminal being the web browser, and the mainframe being SaS. So it wasn't that far off.

the network is the computer

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Post by com2kid »

Pxtl wrote: post #143
sandworm101 wrote: post #84

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Most people are ok with slower. An AI that lets you edit a family picture, in say 30 seconds, locally is preferable to one that is instantaneous but requires you to submit that picture to examination/storage/training/sale in someone else's AI ecosystem. If i want to crop my ex out of family photos, i should not have to first give that photo to Microsoft. If want an LLM to write a book report for me, i dont want it al…

I'd like to think so but the existence of Google and Apple and Microsoft's cloud based photo tools with phone integration suggests that's false. You could run a pretty good home server on $50 of gear and yet we never saw any real adoption of OwnCloud/NextCloud style products as an alternative to Google Drive/Photos or Apple Cloud. Why should LLM/Transformers be any different? Especially when you need a proper expensi…

After the latest round of cloud storage price increases my non technical wife has been asking if we can do local backups instead...

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Post by DonHopkins »

joering2 wrote: post #117
root-parent wrote: post #72

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"I am not sure how many people will run AI models locally. It still seems like a niche application to me. However, it will make decent machines to play video games..." This is the 2026 edition of Ken Olsen: "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home"

or "640K ought to be enough for anybody."

I have that many browser tabs.
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