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Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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The Qualcomm Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme trounces Nvidia's chip in single core CPU performance. It beats Intel and AMD's best, too. It has unified memory. It's the only CPU in the same league as Apple's M-series in both CPU performance and power efficiency. And it's available in laptops today, not later this year. People are sleeping on Qualcomm.

Microsoft is sleeping on Qualcomm with their lousy port of Windows to Arm processors…

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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post #15

"I am not sure how many people will run AI models locally. It still seems like a niche application to me. However, it will make decent machines to play video games." I don't know who will be the winner but with some of the recent releases from gemma it seems more probable that you may run some models locally if only from a cost perspective, not even considering business security. Not sure how this type of architectur…

Qwen 3.6 is far ahead of Gemma for most (but not all) things. I've deployed it out across a number of M5 MacBooks and it's genuinely useful for many tasks. It won't replace an Opus or current gen Sonnet sized model but it's still amazingly good for its size and probably as good as or just a bit before Sonnet 4 era. Far more reliable for tool calling, coding, agentic tasks and faster than the Gemma models especially w…

I've got a Qwen 3.5 running on a 12GB 3060 and it's dumb as a stump but still smart enough to get some useful work done. Since it's my daily driver desktop I havent jumped to 3.6 since last time I did I quickly ran out of vram and locked the desktop environment.

But yeah, the Qwen line is pretty impressive on commodity hardware.

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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post #131

The Qualcomm Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme trounces Nvidia's chip in single core CPU performance. It beats Intel and AMD's best, too. It has unified memory. It's the only CPU in the same league as Apple's M-series in both CPU performance and power efficiency. And it's available in laptops today, not later this year. People are sleeping on Qualcomm.

Microsoft is sleeping on Qualcomm with their lousy port of Windows to Arm processors…

10000000x this. They have been sleeping on Arm since windows phone. I just don’t see them ever having an original thought again.

They could have had a 128core arm chip by now.

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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I don't think this is going to get any traction in the general consumer world, even less relevant than Apple Vision Pro.

(HN reaction to Vision Pro back in 2024 is almost hilarious if not ridiculous, looking at it today. I knew it would be a flop and I was so right.)

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CPU/GPU is decent (800 GB or so), memory is slowish (300GB or so). Some Apple M are slower, some are faster.

Where did you get those numbers from? DGX Spark has a maximum of 273 GB/s bandwidth in ideal scenarios (hard to reach) That puts it between an M5 (153) and M5 Pro (307)

The 900 GB/s is from the NVLink-C2C interconnect, if you were wondering about that. They quote "up to 900 GB/s of bidirectional bandwidth between GPU and CPU".

Mind you thats not to/from memory, which indeed only has 273 GB/s.

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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"I am not sure how many people will run AI models locally. It still seems like a niche application to me."

Clip me :). You are currently living through the final stages of unrestricted computing in the hands of the 'public'. Our regimes are going to pull up the drawbridge in the name of 'safety'. Download the open models asap and prepare for an airgapped computing environment. That will be your frontier in not extremely neutered AI in the near future.

I am so hoping I'm completely wrong on this btw.

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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And it will be expensive - right?

Nvidia is milking the market now. We need more competition again - currently we have a mafia control the prices, not just Nvidia but all the AI companies. The price increases should be paid for them, not by us. "Free market" is being manipulated by them here.

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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post #15

"I am not sure how many people will run AI models locally. It still seems like a niche application to me. However, it will make decent machines to play video games." I don't know who will be the winner but with some of the recent releases from gemma it seems more probable that you may run some models locally if only from a cost perspective, not even considering business security. Not sure how this type of architectur…

Maybe they just mean from a "it can run a lot of DLSS" perspective.

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

#139

"I am not sure how many people will run AI models locally. It still seems like a niche application to me." Clip me :). You are currently living through the final stages of unrestricted computing in the hands of the 'public'. Our regimes are going to pull up the drawbridge in the name of 'safety'. Download the open models asap and prepare for an airgapped computing environment. That will be your frontier in not extrem…

They have bought the governments, so what you model will probably become true. They just inflate the prices right now.

Re: Nvidia is proposing a beast of a CPU system for Windows PCs

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post #131

The Qualcomm Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme trounces Nvidia's chip in single core CPU performance. It beats Intel and AMD's best, too. It has unified memory. It's the only CPU in the same league as Apple's M-series in both CPU performance and power efficiency. And it's available in laptops today, not later this year. People are sleeping on Qualcomm.

Microsoft is sleeping on Qualcomm with their lousy port of Windows to Arm processors…

and is Qualcomm is sleeping on Linux?
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