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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by ben_w » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 1:26 PM UTC

hparadiz wrote: post #346

ben_w wrote: post #321

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You seem to be saying two opposite things here, that the US is better because you spend more money on it, and yet also that you don't spend more money on it. Both can't be true, but both can be wrong. > Our facilities are far superior. Then why is US life expectancy worse? > In California where I live though folks with little money get very subsidized healthcare that is cheaper than NHS taxes. Unless "very subsidized…

If my salary is 150k and I spend 5k that's 3.3%. If my salary is 60k that same 5k is 8.3%. So when I am talking about "cost" I mean hours of labor. It costs Americans fewer hours of labor to pay for their healthcare. This is true across all socioeconomic classes. The same Medicare + Medicaid you cite is actually our tax payer funded subsidized healthcare for folks that have to use tax payer funded socialized healthca…

> If my salary is 150k and I spend 5k that's 3.3%.

> If my salary is 60k that same 5k is 8.3%.

So? The US federal taxes are not a constant dollar amount. Someone who earns $60k pays $5,020, someone who earns $150k pays $24,734, from the first tax calculator I found.

Same idea in the UK.

> So when I am talking about "cost" I mean hours of labor. It costs Americans fewer hours of labor to pay for their healthcare. This is true across all socioeconomic classes.

False.

The average person in the UK spends about half as many hours on health as the average person in the USA.

What you're comparing now isn't just the government taxation supported stuff, so you also have to include the insurance and out-of-pocket costs, which then brings the USA to a nationwide average of $15,474/person, i.e. 18% of GDP, compared to the UK's (in USD terms) $5493/capita or 8.9% GDP: https://www.cms.gov/data-research/statistics-trends-and-repo... vs https://healthsystemsfacts.org/uk-consumer-costs/

> The same Medicare + Medicaid you cite is actually our tax payer funded subsidized healthcare for folks that have to use tax payer funded socialized healthcare and are basically at the mercy of what our healthcare system will provide them state by state but generally it is federal law that an ER has to take care of you if it's an immediate life threatening problem. So what you are citing is actually our tax payer funded socialized healthcare which is funded differently state by state and a lot of people won't even use because it's basically the last resort. Most Americans are subsidizing that healthcare.

I know all of that. What's your argument here? Mine is that the NHS costs roughly the same as Americans spend on just this alone, and the UK doesn't then need other spending on top.

> Having a lower cost per person is actually not a good thing. It's bad, actually. It means worse facilities, fewer staff, worse equipment.

False:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/life-expectancy?tab=line&...

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by croes » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 1:27 PM UTC

skippyboxedhero wrote: post #133

croes wrote: post #108

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And? Being against anti-black racism doesn’t mean pro-white racism. Have you looked up what all those claiming racism against white people said when the victim of a mistake of an police officer was non-white?

You haven't even begun to understand people who disagree with you. If you believe that what happened to George Floyd was bad, you would also believe that what happened to Nowak was bad. Saying that being appalled by police brutality towards a white person is "racism" misunderstands what people are saying complextely. You are arguing with phantoms in your head. The problem that people have is that whilst America was r…

I understand them pretty well.

It’s the same kind if people who ignored the deaths by COVID but claimed every death linked to the vaccines was murder or the consequence of mass experimentation on humans.

Just because this time an police error lead to the death of a white person doesn’t make it a case of racism against whites.

George Floyd was also only the straw that broke the camels back. There is more than enough evidence of racism in the Us justice system.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by Palmik » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 1:29 PM UTC

VladVladikoff wrote: post #264

The OP of this reddit post has a lot of other posts (now hidden) about age verification, bypassing it, and privacy. They even got called out about this in the reddit thread and responded by hiding their profile, but you can see it on google still if you google for “reddit PaiDuck” Not saying what this company did is right, but it feels like this guy has been testing how far he can push these various age verification…

The company representative said that they report all users that use Graphene OS, without any additional qualifiers. Presumably after they've already uploaded their personal details. That's the egregious part.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by croes » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 1:29 PM UTC

jadamson wrote: post #284

croes wrote: post #85

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Two words: Cherry picking In could say Jean Charles de Menezes And know?

Jean Charles de Menezes was killed because he was misidentified as an active terror threat two weeks after the 7/7 London bombings. The officer who killed him was ordered not to allow him on the tube. Ironically, that order was given by Cressida Dick, who went on to set diversity targets that led to [1]. Quoting the Wikipedia summary: > In January 2026, a Met Police review revealed that in an attempt to meet the dive…

If I apply the logic of Nigel Farage and such this wasn't a simple mistake but based on racism

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by croes » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 1:29 PM UTC

akimbostrawman wrote: post #259

skippyboxedhero wrote: post #133

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You haven't even begun to understand people who disagree with you. If you believe that what happened to George Floyd was bad, you would also believe that what happened to Nowak was bad. Saying that being appalled by police brutality towards a white person is "racism" misunderstands what people are saying complextely. You are arguing with phantoms in your head. The problem that people have is that whilst America was r…

>If you believe that what happened to George Floyd was bad, you would also believe that what happened to Nowak was bad except Nowak has never done a crime such as robbing a pregnant women with a knife or overdosed on drugs leading to his death.

Except George Floyd was the last case in a long list of police brutality against black people.

How many cases like Nowak‘s where before his?

Seems like right wingers have a really short temper if they aren’t ok with the victims skin color.

Reminds me of anti vaxxers who cry murder if they can remotely link a death to a vaccine side effect but happily ignore thousands of death from COVID.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by croes » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 1:29 PM UTC

yubblegum wrote: post #95

croes wrote: post #67

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Have you read parent‘s comment until the end? > having led the way in abolishing slavery

Oh, I missed that "let us now, assembled noble lords, end this abominable institution through which we have become filthy rich. And my lords, what say ye regarding pushing drugs to the wretches of Asia?" As they like to say in England, bullocks!

So you can’t do a good thing just because you do other bad things?

So you must be either a saint (who also did a lit of bad things) or the devil himself (who punishes bad people).

You could just simply acknowledge the fact that Britain was one of the first major powers to abolish slave trade and later slavery across its empire, and it actively pushed other countries to follow.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by abc123abc123 » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 1:34 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #250

rvnx wrote: post #234

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thought the culture was “free speech” if you’re denied at the border for expressing speech online at some historic point (non-violent) then how can “respecting the culture” work? When I am in Saudi Arabia, I don’t wear shorts out of respect for their culture; but they don’t go through my instagram looking for pictures of me in shorts.

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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by eesmith » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 1:34 PM UTC

VortexLain wrote: post #168

eesmith wrote: post #69

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I went to a hackathon in another country and was worried about explaining that name to the border guard. To my relief, the topic didn't come up.

You could have told the guard you're going to a competitive programming contest.

It was a non-competitive hackathon - different groups working on related project s get together to promote inter-group relationships.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by cindyllm » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 1:36 PM UTC

trumpdong wrote: post #222

avereveard wrote: post #207

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The right level of recording of non crime is zero wdym reduced?

If they're turning over all information the police have it makes sense this gets turned over... Or do you want the police to not have any record they spoke to you, so they'll come tomorrow and say the same thing again, and again, and again?

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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by abc123abc123 » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 1:36 PM UTC

expedition32 wrote: post #125

poirot2 wrote: post #117

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Americans perception of themselves always baffles me. You have police brutality regularly, ICE raids shooting protestors and deporting people (inc those with the right to be there) to El Salvador, people who write critical articles of Israel denied visas, servicemen dying in the Middle East, your president openly stealing from your government via slush funds and his sons, and so little accountability that the only pe…

I am an atheist and any country were a leader claims their country to be Christian is a no go for me. Is the separation of church and state a joke to Americans? It was pretty funny because right next to Trump they had a man/woman in a Easter bunny suit.

To be consistent, you must also not go to hindu, moslem or any other countries. Out of curiousity, which countries remain on your list?