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In the UK I'd be worried about being arbitrarily arrested, deported, and banned from re-entry. In the US I'd be worried about being murdered. By police. In cold blood.
It's actually easy to avoid getting killed. Simply don't chase, harass, attempt to run over, or assault LEOs doing their jobs Hope that helps.
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California may well be an outlier state in this and various other aspects.
You should check out the stats broken down by ethnicity and household wealth. That gives you a clearer picture of what a typical person on HN actually experiences.
It seems that you only care about how well you and your bubble are off and not others. As the young kids say it - sad.
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> Think of it like being a guest But I only hold guests responsible for what they say while in my home. Not what they have said to their friends in DMs 6 months beforehand. But the analogy is imprecise because the border patrol isn’t inviting people and revoking invitations when they misbehave. They are granting access to public spaces or revoking that. And the idea that a public place should do anything more than ga…
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> I remember UK jailing folks for FB posts, that's stuff that happens in third world countries. The only cases this has happened has been over people actively calling for racial violence over an imagined scare - bunch of morons thought a muslim migrant killed someone, so they went on to riot, burn mosques, assault foreign looking people, etc; on day 2 it was revealed the perpetrator was a Britain born Christian son o…
I don't know I don't think they were jailed but some guy also got arrested for saying bad stuff about the King https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyenzdz66wo Sure courts won but the arrest is the issue. Courts general also win in other democratic third world countries but the initial arrest is enough of an intimidation. Also this is a slippery slope I remember one person you mentioned were bad but there was another w…
Indeed, but police do this kind of thing in a lot of places. Didn't the US have multiple cases of people being arrested over comments on Kirk's death? It's not good, but cops on a power trip because you hurt their feelings is not a thing we can easily root out. Hence why courts matter.
> All speech is hate speech of you are not in line with the current govt.
Not at all what hate speech means.
> Basically if China is 100% authoritarian, UK is atleast 70% there. They just need a leader to abuse these systems to come in power.
Yeah, no, 70% is ridiculous. I'm not sure you can clearly measure this, but at most 50%. Even with an abusive leader you can still criticise them and the monarch without fear of actual repercussions. In China prison time is basically guaranteed.
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> risk of being a victim of violence is higher in the US You really gotta look at how those numbers break down. Who's killing who and where. Be in the right places and you're much safer than anywhere in Europe
Have you considered doing the same in reverse? Because sure, if you look at the right parts of the US, you can find zero homicide rate due to there not being any residents. You can also do this in Europe. It tells you nothing. What may give you a hint about relative safety is that the UK police don't bother with being regularly equipped with firearms, because they don't need to be .
Judges give longer sentences for mean tweets than hoarding child pornography or months long torture and rape of children.
More euros die of heat stroke than Americans die from gun violence.
Edit: NHS waitlists are double digit months to years. You have one of the worst birthing outcomes in the OECD. You have relatively poor cancer treatment outcomes
I won't take any lecturing on societal ills from such a perverted system.
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You go on a list for acting smart, and they dump it with a cellebrite same as at the border.
they can try, so far GrapheneOS has been the only mobile OS immune to them.
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The Palestine Action ban was overturned by the courts. And putting this together with the Nowak case leads to an almost contradictory position. Whatever the issues with police handling of pro-Palestinian protestors, they're not instances of what the far right would call two-tier policing (i.e. the bogus claim that the police treat white people more harshly than other ethnic groups). For example, here is a poster who'…
>The Palestine Action ban was overturned by the courts. Which is exactly what I said, courts generally do the right thing. The people were still arrested, and the dissent was still crushed, though. Israel is a strategic partner so all protests are equal, but some are more equal than others. >they're not instances of what the far right would call two-tier policing (i.e. the bogus claim that the police treat white peop…
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It's actually easy to avoid getting killed. Simply don't chase, harass, attempt to run over, or assault LEOs doing their jobs Hope that helps.
Also make sure you're white!
Why did people suddenly stop talking about body cams after mass adoption. Maybe it didn't show you what you thought it would.
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Europe has many many different jurisdictions. Even if you take the European Union alone and ignore all the other European countries, the EU only legislates over a subset of things for member countries.
The EU has no sovereignty, countries (like Hungary and Germany) can openly disobey it and the worst they can do is kick them out of the EU
AFAIK, not even that. This topic came up in relation to Hungary (before Orban was gone). What I understood from the discussion is that a country can only be punished by not giving them EU funds, etc.
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I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here. My point is this, none of these people ever make a point of how much freedom they had, because after a couple hundred years they stopped, quite like the the brits like to. It's pretty baffling tbh. Anyone: criticises the British empire. Brits: after several hundred years of brutal trans Atlantic slave trade, we stopped. Hurrah!
> My point is this, none of these people ever make a point of how much freedom they had, because after a couple hundred years they stopped, quite like the the brits like to. The others he listed didn't stop voluntarily - their empires either collapsed or found themselves at the mercy of another that likely also practiced slavery. As he said, slavery was the default. The UK itself was getting raided by Barbary pirates…
Y'know.... i dunno man, i'm not so sure its the 'stopping' that makes them hated by those calling themselves progressives?