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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by ben_w »

hparadiz wrote: post #148
trumpdong wrote: post #143

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Fun fact: Americans pay more tax money towards healthcare than countries with universal tax-funded healthcare. How much healthcare does that spending get them? Zero. After overpaying tax for healthcare they also have to buy healthcare separately.

Yea cause we throw more money at it. Our facilities are far superior. In California where I live though folks with little money get very subsidized healthcare that is cheaper than NHS taxes.

You seem to be saying two opposite things here, that the US is better because you spend more money on it, and yet also that you don't spend more money on it. Both can't be true, but both can be wrong.

> Our facilities are far superior.

Then why is US life expectancy worse?

> In California where I live though folks with little money get very subsidized healthcare that is cheaper than NHS taxes.

Unless "very subsidized" means "by 100%", the UK's "folks with little money", or indeed significantly more than national average income, are still doing better. NHS care for citizens is zero upfront cost, except for dentistry and prescriptions which total to 1% of the UK's health costs.

The claim about taxes is just plain false, when considered over the whole USA and not cherrypicking the most favourable states within it: the US federal spending on Medicare + Medicaid is around $4,352/person, state-level spending added around $1,105/person on top of that for a total of around $5,457/person, and remember this is before personal insurance and co-pay costs which are on top of that: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fy2024_federal_budge...

In comparison, the NHS spent around £3,482/person, at current exchange rates $4,643.66/person: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn00...

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by NooneAtAll3 »

sph wrote: post #180
NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #25

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watchlists existed for decades

Which watchlist was it again for using alternative operating systems?

are you implying watchlists for other reasons are any more reasonable?

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Post by microtonal »

picofarad wrote: post #268
dijit wrote: post #250

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thought the culture was “free speech” if you’re denied at the border for expressing speech online at some historic point (non-violent) then how can “respecting the culture” work? When I am in Saudi Arabia, I don’t wear shorts out of respect for their culture; but they don’t go through my instagram looking for pictures of me in shorts.

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Fine, we won't be spending our money as a tourist in the US then. Your loss.

I'll welcome tourists to Europe, even if our opinions don't align (but JD and Elo, you can leave your election meddling at home).

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by diordiderot »

mattlondon wrote: post #219
hparadiz wrote: post #137

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I think you have your numbers backwards regarding health. The US spends more (16% Vs 10 GDP), but preventable mortality, life expectancy, people living with chronic conditions etc are all worse than other developed nations: https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2023/05/26/a-comparative-ana... Plus the risk of being a victim of violence is higher in the US - you are 400% to 600% more likely to be murdered in the US than the…

> risk of being a victim of violence is higher in the US

You really gotta look at how those numbers break down.

Who's killing who and where. Be in the right places and you're much safer than anywhere in Europe

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by microtonal »

akimbostrawman wrote: post #223
trumpdong wrote: post #211

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You go on a list for acting smart, and they dump it with a cellebrite same as at the border.

they can try, so far GrapheneOS has been the only mobile OS immune to them.

Also, why would you set up the phone before it arrives?

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Post by graemep »

avereveard wrote: post #207
graemep wrote: post #153

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1. That is one reason why the rules were changed to reduce the level of recoding 2. It would only be disclosed on an enhanced DBS check, not basic or standard. This also applies to all other information the police have on you, not just NCHIs. This is just like the rules for disclosing something like a caution issued to someone in your household, an aquittal, allegations made against you, parking and speeding tickets…

The right level of recording of non crime is zero wdym reduced?

I did not say its the right level. All my comments in this thread have been stating facts, not opinions (not that that stopped downvotes).

By reduced I mean a stricter code of practice that requires a good reason for doing it.: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/non-crime-hate-in...

Example H above is in my view a good example of something should be recorded. A single incident is not a crime, but repeating that conduct could constitute a criminal harassment.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by ben_w »

trumpdong wrote: post #214
graemep wrote: post #157

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The entire point of a constitution is that, unlike toilet paper, it can be enforced by the courts.

Can be, or is? Courts can enforce my toilet paper too.

Trying to imagine how, and the only thing I can think of is that technically you can write a contract on anything? And possibly a cheque, too, because a the cheques in a chequebook are just a standardised IOU form with exactly the same legal weight as if it was done by hand?

(Vague memory that someone used this to avoid paying a bill, because refusing a cheque when offered counted as discharging the debt it represents (if I have the right terminology), and as cheques could be written on anything they chose to write it on a car that physically would not fit through the door).

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by asdfsa32 »

somewhatgoated wrote: post #297
asdfsa32 wrote: post #198

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In Queensland, Australia. Saying from a flow streaming of water to a large salty tidal body of water lands you a criminal record. Just the words. Same in Berlin.

Btw in Germany the courts ruled that From the river to the sea as parole itself is not unlawful. The arrested person got acquitted. Hamas and its symbols are illegal however.

"The process is the punishment".

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by genewitch »

dijit wrote: post #288
picofarad wrote: post #268

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Got it. Opinions are wrong if we have them, but you should be embraced with open arms if you have them about our country. https://dailycaller.com/2026/06/05/jd-vance-henry-nowak-kirp...

Our VP saying he's upset at both the specific case and the causes thereof of a horrifically botched UK police job.... means... what?

Have you listened to your leaders? ever? We do! von der Lyon is my favorite!

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